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From: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu>
Cc: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: [arch-users] Re: Gud lord!]
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:37:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200306101437.h5AEbxHI032125@rum.cs.yale.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20030610160057.9115.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es

> > Arch has an appealingly tool-oriented approach, and uses
> > `understandable' data representations, unlike subversion which seems to be
> > more of a `big binary blob' design...
> 
> I'm not arguing for or against any such tool now, but the "big binary
> blob" is not a problem per se, if well documented.

It is a problem because you can't look inside with the usual tools,
so you end up locked with a specific set of tools and you have to
use them to get anything done.  And when there's a bug, it can end
up pretty disastrous (basically, the big-binary-blob implements
something like a file-system, so a bug is like a bug in your kernel
that can trash your entire file system).

It's not unbearable, but saying that "Subversion is just a better CVS"
is just silly.  The implementation of Subversion is far more radical than
the one of OpenCM, Arch, and Meta-CVS (which is why it's taking so long,
BTW, especially compared to single-man efforts such as Arch or
Meta-CVS).


	Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-10 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-08  1:09 [Fwd: [arch-users] Re: Gud lord!] Robert Anderson
2003-06-08  3:05 ` Alan Shutko
2003-06-08  5:01   ` Robert Anderson
2003-06-08 15:54     ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-08 17:26       ` Robert Anderson
2003-06-09  8:23     ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-09 14:37       ` Robert Anderson
2003-06-09 15:00         ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-09 15:20           ` Miles Bader
2003-06-09 19:21           ` Jonathan Walther
2003-06-09 19:58             ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]             ` <20030609214121.77EE.LEKTU@terra.es>
2003-06-09 20:11               ` Jonathan Walther
2003-06-10  7:14                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-10 12:59                   ` Miles Bader
2003-06-10 14:05                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-10 14:37                       ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2003-06-10 14:55                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-10 15:03                           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-11  6:59                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-11 14:11                               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-11 14:40                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-10 20:16                           ` Miles Bader
2003-06-11  7:10                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-10 14:54                       ` Robert Anderson
2003-06-11  0:25                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-11  7:19                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-11  9:54                       ` Jonathan Walther
2003-06-10  1:22           ` Robert Anderson
2003-06-10  6:53             ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-10 14:16               ` Robert Anderson
2003-06-08 15:51   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-09  1:18   ` Jonathan Walther
2003-06-09  1:47     ` Alan Shutko
2003-06-09  2:03       ` Jonathan Walther
2003-06-09 14:53       ` Robert Anderson
2003-06-09 15:20         ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-10  0:35           ` Alex Schroeder
2003-06-10  6:12             ` Kai Großjohann

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