From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Idea for compilation mode Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 14:41:47 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20030606143233.7242.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> References: <1054900912.3ee082b0b4f97@webmail.isogmbh.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054904597 23916 80.91.224.249 (6 Jun 2003 13:03:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 13:03:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 06 15:03:15 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19OGsF-0006DW-00 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 15:03:15 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19OHAo-0007p5-00 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 15:22:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19OGok-0000rK-1z for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 08:59:38 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19OGnl-0000Iv-A2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 08:58:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19OGiJ-0006os-Mu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 08:53:00 -0400 Original-Received: from laley-actualidad.es ([195.53.61.17] helo=haya.laley.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19OGWW-0002H5-VU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 08:40:49 -0400 Original-Received: from idefix.laley.net (correo.wke.es [172.17.220.16]) by haya.laley.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08814; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:38:34 +0200 Original-Received: from [172.17.221.23] (jsredondo.wk.org [172.17.221.23]) by Version 5.5.2655.55) id LP7A4CS8; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:41:46 +0200 Original-To: Stephan Stahl In-Reply-To: <1054900912.3ee082b0b4f97@webmail.isogmbh.de> X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.06.02 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14825 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14825 On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:01:52 +0200 Stephan Stahl wrote: > Taking non-American keyboard layouts into mind seems like a very complica= ted=20 > thing. OTOH... > I myself use a us-international layout because most others layouts i=20 > have tried are horrible to use with applications like emacs or maybe vi. =2E..some of us use non-american keyboard layouts and Emacs. I've used it with a Brazilian Portuguese layout and I'm now working with a Spanish one. > For example the german keyboard has not two alt keys but one alt and one = altGr=20 > keys. Here's the same. > To produce ] one would have to type altGr-9. I do AltGr +. And I don't find it particularly cumbersome (yes, I program in C, C++, Perl and other languages where [] are heavily used). > It is not possible to type > C-] (aka ESC) on a german keyboard because it would require both ctrl and= altGr=20 > to be pressed. To do C-] I have to type AltGr Right-Ctrl +, in that precise order. And left ctrl won't do :) I've also remapped C-=D1 to insert ~ (although I can get it too with AltGr 4), and AltGr e to insert =80. > Besides it would be very hard to hit all three keys at once. Do you do C-] very often? Juanma