From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Problems with info (emacs version) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:40:47 -0500 (CDT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200306031940.h53JelS16832@moose.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200306020333.h523XMC23468@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <200306030522.h535MWh24584@eel.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054669321 8911 80.91.224.249 (3 Jun 2003 19:42:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 19:42:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 03 21:41:58 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19NHfS-0002JW-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 21:41:58 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19NHwg-0000kO-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 21:59:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19NHgN-0007xm-2m for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:42:55 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19NHfU-000731-0t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:42:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19NHfB-0006DZ-1I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:41:46 -0400 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19NHej-0005N5-88; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:41:13 -0400 Original-Received: from moose.dms.auburn.edu (moose.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.3]) h53Jf9oc009523; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:41:09 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by moose.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id h53JelS16832; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:40:47 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: moose.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: jas@extundo.com In-reply-to: (message from Simon Josefsson on Tue, 03 Jun 2003 21:23:04 +0200) Original-cc: rms@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14652 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14652 Simon Josefsson wrote: Perhaps it was added in Gnus 5.10. I guess that would not make David Kastrup happy, for reasons he explained earlier in this thread. But I believe that you are confusing the invisibility property and the display property. I agree that message checks for the invisibility property. The main purposes of the display property are to change the way text is displayed and to display pictures. It can be used to have non-whitespace text displayed as whitespace, that is "visible" (in the form of whitespace) but impossible to see. It is this use of the display property that I find objectionable and that causes problems. Sincerely, Luc.