From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Idea for determining what users use Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 19:04:21 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20030530230421.GA18463@gnu.org> References: <5xk7c8m1y2.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054335922 2000 80.91.224.249 (30 May 2003 23:05:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 23:05:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat May 31 01:05:20 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Lsve-0000V4-00 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 01:04:54 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19LtB1-0004CT-00 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 01:20:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Lswq-0007ic-9O for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 19:06:08 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Lsvm-0006r3-EX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 19:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19LsvS-00065k-Ak for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 19:04:43 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19LsvE-0005bE-Mz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 19:04:28 -0400 Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.20) id 19Lsv7-00053G-Ej; Fri, 30 May 2003 19:04:21 -0400 Original-To: "Kim F. Storm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5xk7c8m1y2.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Blat: Foop Original-cc: rms@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14509 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14509 On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 01:47:49AM +0200, Kim F. Storm wrote: > For the un-informed public (read journalists, m$-evangelists, etc), > putting such a feature into emacs could be used to bad-mouth the > GNU project for installing "SPY-ware" on the users' systems. Yeah, I agree with this -- I've seen it happen before. No matter how careful you are to confirm with the user, there are a _lot_ of people out there who will get their panties in a twist over it (you know, the same people who encrypt their laundry-list). So while I personally rather like such features (I like to know that I'm having some influence!), I think it would probably cause more problems for emacs than it would solve. At best, I think you could get away with making it a feature that was off by default, and had to be turned on explicitly -- this is obviously much worse because doing so would skew the results highly, but it might be better than doing polls, as the user would only have to enable it once, and wouldn't have to bother with answering individual polls. -Miles -- Ich bin ein Virus. Mach' mit und kopiere mich in Deine .signature.