From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Will default key bindings spell the death of Emacs? Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 12:09:54 -0500 (CDT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200305301709.h4UH9sm20508@eel.dms.auburn.edu> References: <3ED6FFAA.3040004@math.ku.dk> <8765nsk9nd.fsf@gnu.org> <874r3c2ye2.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054314507 6542 80.91.224.249 (30 May 2003 17:08:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 17:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jmbarranquero@laley.wke.es Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri May 30 19:08:25 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19LnMf-0001hL-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 19:08:25 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19Lnbu-0007zR-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 19:24:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19LnOP-00044o-MG for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 13:10:13 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19LnO4-00044a-LO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 13:09:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19LnO3-00044K-E3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 13:09:51 -0400 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19LnO2-000441-B2; Fri, 30 May 2003 13:09:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eel.dms.auburn.edu (eel.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.108]) h4UH9noc000664; Fri, 30 May 2003 12:09:49 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by eel.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id h4UH9sm20508; Fri, 30 May 2003 12:09:54 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: eel.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: alex@gnu.org In-reply-to: <874r3c2ye2.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Alex Schroeder on Fri, 30 May 2003 18:27:17 +0200) Original-cc: larsh@math.ku.dk Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14496 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14496 Alex Schroeder wrote: Juanma Barranquero writes: > Alex Schroeder wrote: > >> But then again, usability expert Jeff Raskin claims that whenever >> there is something to customize, it means that the developpers didn't >> know what design decision was the best and left it up to the users >> (who aren't usability experts, either). > > Seems like a fairly narrow POV. "Whenever", indeed? What if there's *no* > best decision? Heh, simple: Try harder! :) This is completely ridiculous. Denying the importance of customizability is denying the importance of individuality. People are not just all isomorphic carbon copies of each other. Sincerely, Luc.