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From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: ding@gnus.org, rms@gnu.org, jas@extundo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: MML charset tag regression
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 10:33:44 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200305230133.KAA08801@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0F223D16-8C72-11D7-8F50-00039363E640@swipnet.se> (jan.h.d@swipnet.se)

In article <0F223D16-8C72-11D7-8F50-00039363E640@swipnet.se>, "Jan D." <jan.h.d@swipnet.se> writes:
>>  The current Emacs still don't unify Unicode and the other
>>  legacy charsets (e.g. iso-8859-2, jisx0208, gb2312)
>>  automatically.  So, for instance, if iso-8859-2 characters
>>  arrive at Emacs with UTF8_STRING, they are decoded into the
>>  charset mule-unicode-0100-24ff and treated differently
>>  (e.g. in searching) than the characters of the charset
>>  iso-8859-2.

> Okay, that explains it.  But playing the devils advocate a
> bit, does this not simply point out a problem with Emacs,
> not GTK?

It's surely Emacs' problem that the same iso-8859-2
character is represented in two ways internally.  But,
incomplete support of COMPOUND_TEXT is GTK's (or some other
X client's) problem.  As far as they react upon the request
of COMPOUND_TEXT, it should send the correct data (without
cutting off unsupported characters or replacing them with
'?' silenty).  Otherwise, it shouldn't react upon that
request.

> If UTF8_STRING is the recommended thing to use,
> changing GTK would not help much, as there are other X
> toolkits out there (Qt, Motif, and so on), that will start
> to use UTF8_STRING also (Qt already does)?  Isn't this an
> argument for getting the Unicode Emacs branch released, or
> unify charsets?

Of course, with Emacs-unicode, there's no such problem, and
I want to release it as soon as possible.

---
Ken'ichi HANDA
handa@m17n.org




  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-23  1:33 UTC|newest]

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2003-04-26 10:50                   ` MML charset tag regression James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-04-28 11:58                     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-28 12:43                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-04-28 12:59                         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-28 23:05                       ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-29  7:12                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-04-29  5:38                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-20 12:47                         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-20 19:42                           ` Jan D.
2003-05-21 15:31                             ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-21 16:23                               ` Jan D.
2003-05-22  0:58                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-22 16:25                                   ` Jan D.
2003-05-23  1:33                                     ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2003-05-23  7:45                                       ` David Kastrup
2003-05-23 22:48                                     ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-23 23:41                                       ` Jan D.
2003-05-24  0:31                                         ` Miles Bader
2003-05-25 16:40                                           ` Dave Love
2003-05-25 18:01                                         ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-25 16:38                                       ` Dave Love
2003-05-25 17:25                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-30  8:39                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-30  9:23                                           ` Dave Love
2003-05-30 11:36                                             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-06-04 22:01                                               ` Dave Love
2003-06-05  1:16                                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-06-11 12:33                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-06-01 15:40                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-06-04 22:04                                               ` Dave Love
2003-06-06 10:55                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-26 13:49                                         ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-30  9:28                                           ` Dave Love
2003-05-25 16:32                                     ` Dave Love
2003-05-25 19:14                                       ` Jan D.
2003-05-30  9:23                                         ` Dave Love
2003-05-23 12:05                                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-25 16:31                                   ` Dave Love
2003-05-30 12:03                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-06-04 21:52                                       ` Dave Love
2003-06-05  1:36                                         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-25 16:27                                 ` Dave Love
2003-05-24  0:51                               ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-23 12:03                           ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-23 12:21                             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-24 23:18                               ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-13  8:37                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-06-15 15:59                                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-17 11:06                                     ` Kenichi Handa

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