From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Files in wrong subdirs of emacs/lisp? Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 09:43:10 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20030522090031.9552.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> References: <20030520130413.8A2E.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1053589569 21225 80.91.224.249 (22 May 2003 07:46:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 07:46:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu May 22 09:46:06 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Ikm6-0005Vt-00 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 09:46:06 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19IkxG-0001H2-00 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 09:57:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19IklU-0000LE-SW for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 22 May 2003 03:45:28 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Ikkx-0008BL-Kn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 May 2003 03:44:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Ikkc-0007oK-RK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 May 2003 03:44:35 -0400 Original-Received: from laley-actualidad.es ([195.53.61.17] helo=haya.laley.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19IkhZ-00064h-Jv; Thu, 22 May 2003 03:41:25 -0400 Original-Received: from idefix.laley.net (correo.wke.es [172.17.220.16]) by haya.laley.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18739; Thu, 22 May 2003 09:39:17 +0200 Original-Received: from [172.17.2.45] (JMBARRANQUERO [172.17.2.45]) by idefix.laley.net 5.5.2655.55) id LHASQPL1; Thu, 22 May 2003 09:42:22 +0200 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.06.02 Original-cc: lektu@terra.es Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14079 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14079 On Wed, 21 May 2003 11:30:59 -0400 Richard Stallman wrote: > I think these are still useful for their original purposes. > Do you know of some reason to think they are obsolete? No. That's why I asked. > I don't know any reason to consider them obsolete. Well, me neither, exactly, but: - ledit.el is for a Franz Lisp circa 1985. Is still useful/used? - misc.el contains just one editing command (from 1989). If it is useful, why hasn't it been moved to bindings.el, simple.el, or another appropriate module? - What about unused.el? (I forgot to mention it in my previous message). A file whose description says "editing commands in GNU Emacs that turned out not to be used" and with no significant revision ever should be a candidate for obsolescence, shouldn't it? - progmodes/mantemp.el's description says "create manual template instantiations from g++ 2.7.2 output". Last significant change was six years ago... Either the description is unexact (and should perhaps refer to more recent GCCs) or the module is outdated. Even with GCC's outstanding back-compatibility is difficult to believe its output wrt templates hasn't changed in six years. But I can be wrong, of course. - textmodes/scribe.el: If I undestand correctly, is from 1985, for a VAX text formater, and the last significant changes were from 8 years ago. It is still used by someone? - emacs-lisp/tq.el: I don't doubt it's useful, but is not used anywhere in Emacs (that I can see), and from a cursory search in Google it doesn't seem to be much used outside either. Juanma