From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Q] GNu Emacs/MacOS X/Font Encoding Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 17:20:26 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200305082120.h48LKQh5020830@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052429123 12070 80.91.224.249 (8 May 2003 21:25:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 21:25:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu May 08 23:25:21 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Dsr4-0002vu-00 for ; Thu, 08 May 2003 23:23:06 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19Dsvh-0005i9-00 for ; Thu, 08 May 2003 23:27:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19DsrN-0006cd-00 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 08 May 2003 17:23:25 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19Dsr3-0006Zz-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2003 17:23:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19Dsr1-0006Yc-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2003 17:23:04 -0400 Original-Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu ([128.36.229.169]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19DsoZ-0006Cl-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2003 17:20:31 -0400 Original-Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h48LKQx6020832; Thu, 8 May 2003 17:20:26 -0400 Original-Received: (from monnier@localhost) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h48LKQh5020830; Thu, 8 May 2003 17:20:26 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 Original-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rolf_Marvin_B=F8e_Lindgren?= X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by rum.cs.yale.edu id h48LKQx6020832 Original-cc: Andrew Choi X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13774 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13774 > [Rolf Marvin B=F8e Lindgren] >=20 > | [...] I (along, I presume, with all or most Europeans) cannot use > | Emacs in multibyte mode. so this _must_ work in unibyte mode. [...] >=20 > [Andrew Choi] >=20 > | Why not? >=20 > as I mentioned, LaTeX for instance does not understand multibyte > characeters. in fact most software does not. in order to avoid having > to filter all our files before feeding them to other software, we need > a GNU Emacs that can read and write Latin 1 properly using unibyte. =20 Andrew's question was not very direct: we can guess why you think you need unibyte mode, but any use of Emacs in multibyte mode (i.e. in its default mode) that "doesn't do what you want" is a bug. Most people in the latin-1 world use Emacs in multibyte mode with great success, including using LaTeX. So you'll need to show a step by step situation where Emacs fails to do what it should. And then we'll either fix the problem or tell you where you did something wrong. Stefan