From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:56:19 -0500 (CDT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200304121456.h3CEuJ903989@eel.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200304111308.h3BD8oW03188@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <844r55f7yr.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <84ptnt6oc8.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <848yug14bw.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050159417 16115 80.91.224.249 (12 Apr 2003 14:56:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 14:56:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 12 16:56:55 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 194MR5-0004Bn-00 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:56:55 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 194MX4-0001mJ-00 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 17:03:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 194MRO-0007wm-0B for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 10:57:14 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 194MQt-0007J7-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 10:56:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 194MQh-0006rP-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 10:56:34 -0400 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 194MQY-0006go-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 10:56:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eel.dms.auburn.edu (eel.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.108]) h3CEuJoc019924; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:56:19 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by eel.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id h3CEuJ903989; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:56:19 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: eel.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net In-reply-to: <848yug14bw.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> (kai.grossjohann@gmx.net) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13186 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13186 Kai Grossjohann wrote: With the old Gtk scrollbar behavior, you can scroll end of buffer to the last window line, and then there will be some area of the trough visible below the thumb. I was suggesting to color this area. It is clearly non-empty, as anyone can see by trying out the Gtk scrollbar. (I changed back from Gtk to the native scrollbar some days ago, so if the Gtk scrollbar changed in the last 4 days, then disregard my ranting...) If I understood the discussion on the subject correctly, Richard decided to try to change that behavior to make the GTK scrollbar behave more like the native one. (Again, unless I misunderstood.) As I understood it, Jan is trying to implement Richard's proposal and therefore, was trying to understand exactly how the native scrollbar behaves. If I understand correctly, the behavior has not changed over the last few days, but it is likely to change in the future. Of course some (Owen in particular) may prefer the old behavior. Sincerely, Luc.