From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:58:18 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20030412115818.GA4189@gnu.org> References: <200304111308.h3BD8oW03188@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <844r55f7yr.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <84ptnt6oc8.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <200304120302.h3C32cL03769@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <848yug14bw.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050148757 20075 80.91.224.249 (12 Apr 2003 11:59:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:59:17 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 12 13:59:16 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 194JfA-0005De-00 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 13:59:16 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 194Jl5-00008r-00 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 14:05:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 194Jei-0007A7-01 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:58:48 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 194JeQ-0006qF-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:58:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 194JeH-0006RJ-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:58:22 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 194JeG-0006Oz-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:58:20 -0400 Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 194JeE-0001DX-00; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:58:18 -0400 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <848yug14bw.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Blat: Foop X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13185 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13185 On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 10:56:51AM +0200, Kai Gro?johann wrote: > With the old Gtk scrollbar behavior, you can scroll end of buffer to > the last window line, and then there will be some area of the trough > visible below the thumb. > > I was suggesting to color this area. It is clearly non-empty, as > anyone can see by trying out the Gtk scrollbar. I guess that would be better than no change at all, but I think it's much worse than the other solutions being dicussed -- I think it would just feel wrong (as the current gtk scrollbar does in emacs). I suspect it's also probably a pain (or impossible) to implement, as the scrollbar is drawn by the theme, which emacs has little control over (and as themes have a fair amount of flexibility in drawing, if emacs tried to draw something itself, it would almost certainly screw it up with some themes). -Miles -- 97% of everything is grunge