From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:11:01 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20030412021101.GA5122@gnu.org> References: <200304111308.h3BD8oW03188@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <844r55f7yr.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <84el49yp1m.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <84r8887olu.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <20030412000522.GA29211@gnu.org> <200304120047.h3C0l1Q03647@eel.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050113605 9625 80.91.224.249 (12 Apr 2003 02:13:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 02:13:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 12 04:13:20 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 194AVh-0002T6-00 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 04:12:53 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 194AbQ-0003EP-00 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 04:18:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 194AU8-0007fO-07 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:11:16 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 194ATv-0007fD-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:11:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 194ATt-0007er-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:11:02 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 194ATt-0007el-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:11:01 -0400 Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 194ATt-0001Q3-00; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:11:01 -0400 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200304120047.h3C0l1Q03647@eel.dms.auburn.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Blat: Foop X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13180 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13180 On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 07:47:01PM -0500, Luc Teirlinck wrote: > The previous suggestion (from Luc?) about implementing `stickiness' > > That was one of Kai's suggestions. My point of view is that trying to > use scrolling with mouse-2 in large buffers for precision work quite > simply does not work. I use mouse-2 to get more or less the position > I want. Most of the time that is good enough. YEah, I agree -- scrollbar dragging is a rough control at best, so it's really only important that it be close enough to make people happy. I think that the beginning- and end- of buffer are special cases however, so it's reasonable to pay a bit of extra attention to them, and that `squishy thumb + sticky-point at the last-line-of-buffer-last-line-screen' method would very naturally meet all the various goals though. -Miles -- Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche