From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:28:57 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200304111428.h3BESwmW009531@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: <200304111308.h3BD8oW03188@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <844r55f7yr.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050071824 4809 80.91.224.249 (11 Apr 2003 14:37:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:37:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 11 16:36:47 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 193ze3-0001DH-00 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:36:47 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 193zjX-0005HL-00 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:42:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 193ze2-0002Ik-03 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:36:46 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 193zaQ-0000Wf-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:33:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 193zZN-0008EZ-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:31:57 -0400 Original-Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu ([128.36.229.169]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 193zWY-00071l-00; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:29:02 -0400 Original-Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h3BESwx6009533; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:28:58 -0400 Original-Received: (from monnier@localhost) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h3BESwmW009531; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:28:58 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 Original-To: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Original-cc: rms@gnu.org Original-cc: Luc Teirlinck Original-cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se Original-cc: otaylor@redhat.com X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13155 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13155 > Dragging the thumb to the beginning of the buffer does not require > precision work. So it would be nice if it wouldn't require precision > work for dragging to the end of the buffer, either. I have no idea what you guys are talking about, but as someone who's spent a fair amount of time on the Emacs support for Motif and Xaw3d scrollbars, I think that any dragging behavior that - doesn't flicker majorly - can always make (point-max) visible - doesn't impose an unnatural thumb size and position (i.e. unlike the current Motif situation) - is not much slower than the current code is already pretty difficult to obtain, so talking about anything finer than that seems totally pointless. Stefan