From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 08:08:50 -0500 (CDT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200304111308.h3BD8oW03188@eel.dms.auburn.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050067447 14242 80.91.224.249 (11 Apr 2003 13:24:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:24:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 11 15:24:04 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 193yVD-0003eA-00 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:23:35 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 193yag-0004YK-00 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:29:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 193yOZ-0007Rw-01 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:16:43 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 193yLa-0006Xb-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:13:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 193yK3-0005m7-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:12:04 -0400 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 193yGz-0004Om-00; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:08:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eel.dms.auburn.edu (eel.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.108]) h3BD8ooc016758; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 08:08:50 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by eel.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id h3BD8oW03188; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 08:08:50 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: eel.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: jan.h.d@swipnet.se In-reply-to: (jan.h.d@swipnet.se) Original-cc: rms@gnu.org Original-cc: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net Original-cc: otaylor@redhat.com X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13152 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13152 Jan D. wrote: Wht do you mean by "the first time"? If I drag down the thumb to the bottom, it is the first time it is there, but I do not see any text, it has been overscrolled out of view. I do not understand what the desired behaviour is supposed to be, versus how it really works with the native scroll bar. There is some "precision work" required, no doubt about that. You have to drag slowly and carefully, you can not just "yank". Actually, that is a problem that is very difficult (or impossible) to get around. (It is one of the things Owen objected to.) Dragging with mouse-2 is not very handy for precision work. (Actually, it is completely impossible for large buffers.) Sincerely, Luc.