From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: skeleton.el _ versus @ Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 12:26:47 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200304091626.h39GQlwc000430@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: <200303242005.h2OK57gr013285@rum.cs.yale.edu> <1048554010.20622.66.camel@zircon> <200303311740.h2VHeZNG017518@rum.cs.yale.edu> <1049242082.66437.15.camel@zircon> <200304020020.h320K4de023432@rum.cs.yale.edu> <1049245381.66437.33.camel@zircon> <20030403084549.2a5aca76.occitan@esperanto.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1049906832 26492 80.91.224.249 (9 Apr 2003 16:47:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 16:47:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 09 18:47:09 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 193Ij6-0006sg-00 for ; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 18:47:09 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 193Inf-0004gK-00 for ; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 18:51:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 193IjW-0004Fx-09 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 12:47:34 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 193Ie6-00030g-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 12:41:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 193Idw-0002x8-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 12:41:49 -0400 Original-Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu ([128.36.229.169]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 193IPQ-0005Vc-00; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 12:26:49 -0400 Original-Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h39GQmx6000432; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 12:26:48 -0400 Original-Received: (from monnier@localhost) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h39GQlwc000430; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 12:26:47 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 Original-To: dapfy@t-online.de (Daniel Pfeiffer) Original-cc: Joe Kelsey Original-cc: rms@gnu.org Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13081 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13081 > But then going and changing it incompatibly a few years later, breaking > existing skeletons is a behaviour worthy of the Bushs and Saddams of this > world! At the very least this should be advertised to all those concerned, > and help offered in fixing the skeletons this breaks! I actually did look around and didn't find any skeleton where the change introduced problems. Then (while pretesting 21.1) someone pointed out a case where the new behavior was not as good as before (the position of point after insertion was fine but the fact that the first @ had not been put on skeleton-positions was a problem), which I addressed (by adding the position to skeleton-positions even when it also sets position-point). Stefan