From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:42:48 -0600 (CST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200304021442.h32EgmU11822@eel.dms.auburn.edu> References: <20030325193739.ZGIN3924.fep01-svc.swip.net@gaffa.gaia.swipnet.se> <3E8345E8.4090509@swipnet.se> <1048872463.17161.132.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1049134327.3326.74.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200304020429.h324TOP11647@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <84of3p2m44.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <844r5hf3ih.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1049295313 6150 80.91.224.249 (2 Apr 2003 14:55:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 14:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 02 16:55:09 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 190jdt-0001ae-00 for ; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 16:55:09 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 190jf0-00085J-00 for ; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 16:56:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 190jYZ-0003PD-05 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 09:49:39 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 190jVO-00018v-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 09:46:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 190jTB-00007w-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 09:44:06 -0500 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 190jR0-0007Mm-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 09:41:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eel.dms.auburn.edu (eel.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.108]) h32Efmoc019355; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:41:48 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by eel.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id h32EgmU11822; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:42:48 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: eel.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net In-reply-to: <844r5hf3ih.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> (kai.grossjohann@gmx.net) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12844 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12844 Kai GrossJohann wrote: For me, the idea that (thumb size / total scrollbar size) is equal to (visible amount of content / total buffer size) is very intuitive. To me too. But apparently not to everybody. I do not have the impression that Owen considers this to be intuitive. The emphasis is on "content" versus occupied window height. It doesn't (directly) have anything to do with the question of how to measure size. Yes it does, because the overscrolled piece contains no content (characters) but it covers a visible amount of window height (pixels). Visually, the overscrolled piece is a piece of the "document" that you can scroll to. Sincerely, Luc.