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From: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: skeleton.el _ versus @
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 19:20:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200304020020.h320K4de023432@rum.cs.yale.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1049242082.66437.15.camel@zircon

> > > > The current code allows the following trick:
> > > > 
> > > > 	"fun f (" @ ")" \n "{" \n _ \n "}"
> 
> > As for how you could get what you want with the current skeleton,
> > how about something like:
> > 
> >  (nil  "<script language=\"JavaScript\">" @ '(setq skeleton-point nil)
> >        "\n" _ "\n" @ "</script>" @)
> 
> I believe that the correct fix is for *you* to change *your* skeletons
> to be:
> 
> (nil "fun f (" @ ")" \n "{" \n _ "}"
>  (setq skeleton-point (pop skeleton-positions))

I don't understand why you get so worked up about it.
Having hacked on skeleton.el and used it, I know how to get it to do
what I want.  Just because changing the behavior to what you want
doesn't prevent me from getting the behavior I was looking for,
doesn't mean that your behavior is preferable.

Obviously both your suggested behavior and the current one are
acceptable and have their own pros and cons.

I have admittedly a slight preference for the current behavior
since I've taken advantage of it, but my main objection to your
change is that it will break existing skeletons without providing
a clearly superior behavior.

> It makes more sense for you since you are using @ incorrectly.

I see no evidence that it's incorrect usage.  As a matter
of fact, it is correct w.r.t the current code.

> Simply because you have taken advantage of a programming error in the
> past does not mean you can continue to do so in the future.

That's interesting: what makes you think it was a programming error ?


	Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-02  0:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-24 19:27 [joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us: skeleton.el _ versus @] Richard Stallman
2003-03-24 20:05 ` skeleton.el _ versus @ Stefan Monnier
2003-03-25  1:00   ` Joe Kelsey
2003-03-30 18:51     ` Joe Kelsey
2003-03-31 17:40     ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-01  1:58       ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-01  7:25         ` Miles Bader
2003-04-01 18:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-02  0:08       ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-02  0:20         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2003-04-02  1:03           ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-02  1:17             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2003-04-02  1:33             ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-03  0:16               ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-03  0:28                 ` Miles Bader
2003-04-03  6:45             ` Daniel Pfeiffer
2003-04-09 16:26               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-10  0:00                 ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-10 22:47                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-11  0:25                     ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-11 23:45                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-11 23:59                         ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-12  0:11                           ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-12  8:51                             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-13 11:23                           ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-13 16:41                             ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-13 18:54                               ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-13 19:11                             ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-20 22:50                             ` skeleton.el _ versus @, a new patch Joe Kelsey
2003-04-21 13:11                               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-22  0:32                                 ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-22 13:31                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-23  0:27                                     ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-22  0:45                               ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-22  1:30                                 ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-24  1:50                                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-24 15:59                                     ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-26  2:31                                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-28 21:51                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-29 19:29                                           ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-18  1:31                                             ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-02 19:26         ` skeleton.el _ versus @ Richard Stallman

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