From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:43:38 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200303291843.h2TIhcNp006149@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: <20030325193739.ZGIN3924.fep01-svc.swip.net@gaffa.gaia.swipnet.se> <200303281338.h2SDcKGe000349@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1048963644 20658 80.91.224.249 (29 Mar 2003 18:47:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 29 19:47:23 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18zLMR-0005N1-00 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:47:23 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18zLPP-0003r8-00 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:50:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18zLKj-0002Y6-0B for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:45:37 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18zLJw-0001Hs-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:44:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18zLJe-0000hc-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:44:30 -0500 Original-Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu ([128.36.229.169]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.10.13) id 18zLIq-000801-00; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:43:40 -0500 Original-Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2TIhdPe006151; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:43:39 -0500 Original-Received: (from monnier@localhost) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h2TIhcNp006149; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:43:38 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 Original-To: Richard Stallman Original-cc: bob@rattlesnake.com Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12746 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12746 > > I prefer the Emacs 20.7 way of doing it; that way, I don't think of > > the thumb as telling me that the buffer is larger than it really is. > > It's also the 21.3 behavior, except in Motif. > > You posted a patch recently--was that intended to obtain this > behavior with Motif as well? Yes, the patch causes Motif to use the same thumb positio&size as is used by Xaw3d and the native scrollbar. The only snag is that the thumb is temporarily forced to zero-length while dragging. It looks a bit unclean but featurewise, it's pretty much "perfect" and the implementation is very simple with no ugly hack as we currently have for Xaw3d. Stefan