From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:50:44 -0600 (CST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200303281550.JAA28510@eel.dms.auburn.edu> References: <20030325193739.ZGIN3924.fep01-svc.swip.net@gaffa.gaia.swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1048866756 21942 80.91.224.249 (28 Mar 2003 15:52:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 28 16:52:33 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18yw9h-0005hW-00 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:52:33 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18ywC7-0005fq-00 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:55:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yw90-000569-0D for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:51:50 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yw7q-0004D1-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:50:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yw7k-00045j-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:50:33 -0500 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yw71-0003ix-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:49:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eel.dms.auburn.edu (eel.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.108]) h2SFngB05212; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:49:42 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by eel.dms.auburn.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA28510; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:50:44 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: eel.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: bob@rattlesnake.com In-reply-to: (bob@rattlesnake.com) Original-cc: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12707 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12707 Robert Chassell wrote: I am puzzled. Using 20.7, when I visit NEWS by typing `C-h n' (view-emacs-news) and then type `C-c C-t' (hide-body), the thumb grows bigger. When I then type `C-c C-a' (show-all), the thumb grows smaller. That is because the total (visible and invisible) amount of text on the screen increases or decreases. This also seems to happen in 21.3.50, it just is harder to notice. (C-c C-t seems to take an awfully long time in Emacs-21.3.50 in the NEWS buffer.) I interpret this to mean that the thumb shows the portion of visible text shown in the window to all the visible text in the buffer. No, because if you start with a full screen and make all text outside your screen invisible, nothing happens to the thumb size. So the thumb does count invisible text as present in the buffer. Stefan knows substantially more about the scrollbar than I do. He can correct me if I am wrong. I believe I am right on this particular issue however. (We are talking about Emacs20.7, configured with with ./configure --prefix=/usr/local) Sincerely, Luc.