From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:38:20 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200303281338.h2SDcKGe000349@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: <20030325193739.ZGIN3924.fep01-svc.swip.net@gaffa.gaia.swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1048858863 18281 80.91.224.249 (28 Mar 2003 13:41:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:41:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 28 14:41:02 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18yu60-0004ir-00 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:40:36 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18yu8N-0004L4-00 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:43:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yu4L-0005Iz-0C for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:38:53 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yu3v-0004h3-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:38:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yu3q-0004V9-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:38:23 -0500 Original-Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu ([128.36.229.169]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yu3p-0004RS-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:38:21 -0500 Original-Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2SDcKPe000351; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:38:20 -0500 Original-Received: (from monnier@localhost) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h2SDcKGe000349; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:38:20 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 Original-To: "Robert J. Chassell" X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12696 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12696 > * How should you display scrolling past the end? > > - In Emacs 21.3 (current CVS): by displaying the whole thumb, > until last character of the buffer is in the top line of the > window. > > This means that in a short buffer, such as the initial > *Messages* buffer in a plain Emacs 21.3 started with > > emacs -q --no-site-file --eval '(blink-cursor-mode 0)' > > the thumb does *not* show it is displaying `all' of the > buffer, but shows the post-end-of-buffer empty lines too. > > - In Emacs 20.7: by letting the scroll bar `sink' into the > space below it, so it gets smaller and smaller, until the last > character of the buffer is in the top line of the window. > > I prefer the Emacs 20.7 way of doing it; that way, I don't think of > the thumb as telling me that the buffer is larger than it really is. It's also the 21.3 behavior, except in Motif. Stefan