From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:42:34 -0600 (CST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200303272142.PAA27945@eel.dms.auburn.edu> References: <20030325193739.ZGIN3924.fep01-svc.swip.net@gaffa.gaia.swipnet.se> <1048780121.14517.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1048799271.15136.69.camel@localhost.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1048801664 24077 80.91.224.249 (27 Mar 2003 21:47:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:47:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 27 22:47:41 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18yfDp-0006Fw-00 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:47:41 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18yfFs-0003eF-00 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:49:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yfCs-0001LG-00 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 16:46:42 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yfCF-000108-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 16:46:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yf8P-0000FL-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 16:42:06 -0500 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yf85-0007fZ-00; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 16:41:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eel.dms.auburn.edu (eel.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.108]) h2RLfYB03782; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:41:35 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by eel.dms.auburn.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA27945; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:42:34 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: eel.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: otaylor@redhat.com In-reply-to: <1048799271.15136.69.camel@localhost.localdomain> (message from Owen Taylor on 27 Mar 2003 16:07:51 -0500) Original-cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se Original-cc: rms@gnu.org Original-cc: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de Original-cc: jody@gnome.org Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12677 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12677 Owen Taylor wrote: Frankly, I tend to turn off or just not look at the scrollbar because these same issues make it behave in a confusing manner in general. (Presumably, if you have a large chunks of hidden text anywhere in your document, the scrollbar will go whacky.) An obvious alternative, assuming no satisfactory solution to your problem can be found, is: ./configure --without-toolkit-scroll-bars The native scrollbar does not have the problem. I am talking about the size of the thumb. Not only does it not come back when dragging (which, while it may be intentional, looks very much like a bug), it also doesn't come back after you release, until you move the scrollbar again. It also "comes back" if you type in any key or click the mouse. Sincerely, Luc.