From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Prefer UTF-8 over mac-roman? (was: [Karl Eichwalder ] charset=macintosh) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 15:55:48 +0900 (JST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200303180655.PAA28039@etlken.m17n.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1047970703 19124 80.91.224.249 (18 Mar 2003 06:58:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 06:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 18 07:58:17 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18vB2p-0004xg-00 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 07:57:55 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18vB2z-0005sW-00 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 07:58:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18vB26-0006GZ-05 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 01:57:10 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18vB1e-0005xK-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 01:56:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18vB1a-0005ov-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 01:56:40 -0500 Original-Received: from tsukuba.m17n.org ([192.47.44.130]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18vB1D-0005Vg-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 01:56:15 -0500 Original-Received: from fs.m17n.org (fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2])h2I6tq915251; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 15:55:52 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from etlken.m17n.org (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) h2I6tnA01840; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 15:55:49 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from handa@localhost) by etlken.m17n.org (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W-2001040620) id PAA28039; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 15:55:48 +0900 (JST) Original-To: jas@extundo.com In-reply-to: (keichwa@gmx.net) Original-cc: ding@gnus.org Original-cc: ke@gnu.franken.de Original-cc: keichwa@gmx.net X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12430 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12430 Sorry for the late reply on this matter. Karl Eichwalder , Karl Eichwalder writes: > The attached message was sent to the Gnus list, but the source of the > problem is Emacs' coding system priorities. Emacs prefers mac-roman > over utf-8 when decoding the text given below. > I noticed that PROBLEMS in Emacs 21.3 prerelease no longer says that > Unicode support is not complete (which it did in 21.2), so I assume > the Unicode support has been completed, or at least the bugs has been > fixed. > So, shouldn't UTF-8 be preferred over mac-roman in emacs 21.3? > Doesn't even Macintosh use UTF-8 now? I have no idea, I know nothing about Macintosh. But as the coding system mac-roman doesn't have `mime-charset' property, I think Gnus should prefer some other codings that have mime-charset property. Even if mac-roman is used, at least there should be a warning like the way sendmail-send-it does via select-message-coding-system. --- Ken'ichi HANDA handa@m17n.org