From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Customize and inhibit-startup-echo-area-message Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 14:28:02 -0600 (CST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200303092028.OAA13092@eel.dms.auburn.edu> References: <20030308144154.4ACB.LEKTU@terra.es> <200303091850.MAA13042@eel.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1047241619 7877 80.91.224.249 (9 Mar 2003 20:26:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 20:26:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lektu@terra.es Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 09 21:26:58 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18s7Np-00022v-00 for ; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 21:26:57 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18s7jl-00019l-00 for ; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 21:49:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18s7ON-0000eM-09 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 15:27:31 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18s7O4-0000cl-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 15:27:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18s7O2-0000Yz-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 15:27:11 -0500 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18s7O2-0000Xb-00; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 15:27:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eel.dms.auburn.edu (eel.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.108]) h29KR7B27926; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 14:27:07 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by eel.dms.auburn.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA13092; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 14:28:02 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: eel.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-reply-to: <200303091850.MAA13042@eel.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Sun, 9 Mar 2003 12:50:28 -0600 (CST)) Original-cc: rms@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12211 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12211 >>From my previous message: Now I understand. You can enter (user-login-name) in customize and it will fool the entire machinery. That seems to me to be a bug in customize. To begin with, I fully understand that this as nothing to do with the problem Juanma is discussing. I am discussing a specific problem with inhibit-startup-echo-area-message. The statement I made above is wrong. If you enter (user-login-name) through customize, then inhibit-startup-echo-area-message gets set to the unevaluated string "(user-login-message)" which has no effect whatsoever. The only ways to get an equivalent of (setq inhibit-startup-echo-area-message (user-login-name)) executed through the customize machinery that I know of are to use it indirectly, either the way Juanma did or by adding manually the line: '(inhibit-startup-echo-area-message (user-login-name)) to one's custom-set-variables form in .emacs. Since both ways seem rather deliberate, I would not consider them bugs, even though they would yield problems in case of completely thoughtless copying. I do not know whether Juanma actually bumped into a less deliberate way to use customize to get a (setq inhibit-startup-echo-area-message (user-login-name)) equivalent. Sincerely, Luc.