From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs manual desribes keyboard macros in the wrong section. Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:01:26 -0600 (CST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200302261901.NAA03553@moose.dms.auburn.edu> References: <5xheart32c.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1046286438 8158 80.91.224.249 (26 Feb 2003 19:07:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:07:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18o6tg-00027L-00 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:07:16 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18o7AE-0002Ye-00 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:24:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18o6rJ-0001Me-00 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 14:04:49 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18o6r0-0001IO-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 14:04:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18o6oE-0008Jo-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 14:01:39 -0500 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18o6o9-0008HY-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 14:01:34 -0500 Original-Received: from moose.dms.auburn.edu (moose.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.3]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA18026; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:01:31 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by moose.dms.auburn.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA03553; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:01:26 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: moose.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: storm@cua.dk In-reply-to: <5xheart32c.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> (storm@cua.dk) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:11985 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:11985 Kim Storm wrote: The keyboard macro feature is currently described under customizations (in custom.texi), but IMO keyboard macros are not customizations (unless you name them etc. which I believe is not the typical use of keyboard macros). In my experience, the typical use of keyboard macros is for doing repeated editing similar to "search and replace". In my opinion it would certainly be appropriate to give keyboard macros their own chapter once their discussion has reached an appropriate size. They are important enough to motivate that. However, I do not believe that the above is an accurate statement. It describes your typical use of keyboard macros. Actually, it also describes my own typical use and probably that of most people who know Elisp. However, most Emacs users are not Elisp programmers. For somebody who does not know Elisp, keyboard macros are an important customization and extension tool. Keyboard macros used as such tend to get named and saved in .emacs. (All of this is irrelevant to the separate chapter issue, but it could potentially be relevant to other issues related to keyboard macros.) Sincerely, Luc.