From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Malayalam rendering Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:54:45 +0900 (JST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200302240754.QAA25609@etlken.m17n.org> References: <874r6ukjqy.fsf@vsnl.net> <200302240053.JAA25073@etlken.m17n.org> <87isva4bmn.fsf@vsnl.net> <200302240545.OAA25500@etlken.m17n.org> <87smuecj1w.fsf@vsnl.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1046073382 17166 80.91.224.249 (24 Feb 2003 07:56:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:56:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18nDTI-0004SQ-00 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:56:20 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18nDid-0001kn-00 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:12:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18nDSS-0000Lp-09 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 02:55:28 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18nDS5-0000L3-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 02:55:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18nDS2-0000Jq-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 02:55:04 -0500 Original-Received: from tsukuba.m17n.org ([192.47.44.130]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18nDS1-0000CR-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 02:55:01 -0500 Original-Received: from fs.m17n.org (fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2])h1O7skk09847; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:54:46 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from etlken.m17n.org (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) h1O7sjR23272; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:54:45 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from handa@localhost) by etlken.m17n.org (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W-2001040620) id QAA25609; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:54:45 +0900 (JST) Original-To: gnu@vsnl.net In-reply-to: <87smuecj1w.fsf@vsnl.net> (gnu@vsnl.net) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/21.2.92 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Original-cc: kawabata@m17n.org Original-cc: gnu@vsnl.net X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:11897 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:11897 In article <87smuecj1w.fsf@vsnl.net>, gnu@vsnl.net (Ramakrishnan M) writes: > One issue is that the Malayalam section as it is, now in the Unicode > standard has problems. There is a set of 5 characters called "Chillaksharam" > which are not there in the standard. TDIL (some organization in Govt of India > which does language related work) has proposed some new changes, which > sort of, solves this issue. So current tools handle "chillaksharams" is their > own non-standard way. One way is ++. This might be a > reason you see alot of ZWJ in that text. I may be wrong though... I see. Apart from the correctness of that non-standard way, if the Unicode standard requires that such a sequence should be rendered correctly, Emacs should support it. Do you know what Unicode requires? Perhaps, supporting ZWNJ is necessary as well. Kawabata-san, is it difficult to support ZWJ and ZWNJ? --- Ken'ichi HANDA handa@m17n.org