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From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 2, Issue 28
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:20:00 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200301271220.VAA14902@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E18b2yg-0007yl-00@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Richard Stallman on Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:18:26 -0500)

In article <E18b2yg-0007yl-00@fencepost.gnu.org>, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
>     string-make-multibyte
>     string-as-multibyte
>     string-to-multibyte

> These three are all useful.

>     string-make-unibyte
>     string-as-unibyte
>     string-to-unibyte (perpaps the same as string-as-unibyte, or
> 		      it should signal an error if non-ascii,
> 		      non-eight-bit-XXX is contained).

> I don't see a need to add string-to-unibyte.

We have string-as/make-multibyte and string-as/make-unibyte.
If one finds string-to-multibyte, it's quite natural that he
also expects string-to-unibyte.  Even if it is an alias of
string-as-unibyte, I think it's worth having it.  And, it's
simpler to have it than saying that we don't have
string-to-unibyte because ... in some place.

And I think it's better that it signals an error as written
above.

>     buffer-make-multibyte
>     buffer-as-multibyte (same as (set-buffer-multibyte BUFFER t))
>     buffer-to-multibyte

> I don't think buffer-make-multibyte and buffer-to-multibyte are
> useful.  What is useful is to have functions to operate on a region in
> a multibyte buffer, transforming the text between these three
> different representations.  (Some of the 6 transformations may be
> meaningless or impossible; we should only support the meaningful
> ones.)

I don't agree with having such function.  I think such a
case is where we have to use decode/encode-coding-region.
Eight-bit chars in a multibyte buffer actually represent
raw-bytes.  Then the operation of turing them to characters
is "decoding", not transforming.

---
Ken'ichi HANDA
handa@m17n.org

  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-27 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E18ZDQC-0003mt-02@monty-python.gnu.org>
2003-01-18  0:48 ` Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 2, Issue 28 Richard Stallman
2003-01-18 12:35   ` Kim F. Storm
2003-01-18 12:40   ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-01-20  0:49     ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-20  2:29     ` unibyte<->multibyte conversion [Re: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 2, Issue 28] Kenichi Handa
2003-01-20 18:48       ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-01-20 20:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2003-01-21  0:20           ` Kenichi Handa
2003-01-21  0:54             ` Stefan Monnier
2003-01-21  5:57             ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-01-22  9:59           ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-22 14:12             ` Stefan Monnier
2003-01-22 18:09               ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-01-23 11:38                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-23 16:18                   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-01-24 17:16                     ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-23 17:48                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-01-24  5:43               ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-26  1:30                 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-01-27  2:31                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-27  7:38                   ` Kenichi Handa
2003-01-27 14:12                     ` Stefan Monnier
2003-01-29 11:23                       ` Kenichi Handa
2003-01-21  0:10         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-01-21  0:45           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-01-21  6:01             ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-01-21  6:43               ` Kenichi Handa
2003-01-21  8:04             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-01-21 15:02               ` Miles Bader
2003-01-21 17:44               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-01-22 10:00               ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-21  5:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-01-21  6:38             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-01-22 10:00           ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-22 14:12             ` Stefan Monnier
2003-01-20  1:52   ` Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 2, Issue 28 Kenichi Handa
2003-01-21 18:18     ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-28  0:32       ` Kenichi Handa
2003-01-28 12:35         ` Kim F. Storm
2003-02-10  8:15           ` set-process-filter-multibyte and etc Kenichi Handa
2003-02-10 14:57             ` Kim F. Storm
2003-02-11  0:15               ` Kenichi Handa
2003-02-20  1:27             ` Tak Ota
2003-02-20  1:56               ` Kenichi Handa
2003-02-20  2:44                 ` Tak Ota
2003-03-03 18:59         ` Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 2, Issue 28 Richard Stallman
2003-01-21 18:18     ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-27 12:20       ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2003-01-29  0:05         ` Richard Stallman

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