From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk patch version 3, part 1 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 20:55:12 -0600 (CST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200301040255.UAA16436@eel.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200301011944.h01Jim0U011400@stubby.bodenonline.com> <5xu1gpu4do.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1041648958 21901 80.91.224.249 (4 Jan 2003 02:55:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 02:55:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18UeTc-0005h6-00 for ; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 03:55:56 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18UeWW-0008FJ-00 for ; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 03:58:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18UeTf-0007sW-01 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 21:55:59 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18UeT3-0007hJ-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 21:55:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18UeSr-0007Lw-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 21:55:11 -0500 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18UeSX-00070n-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 21:54:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eel.dms.auburn.edu (eel.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.108]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA28416; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 20:54:44 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by eel.dms.auburn.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA16436; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 20:55:12 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: eel.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: storm@cua.dk In-reply-to: <5xu1gpu4do.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> (storm@cua.dk) Original-cc: bob@rattlesnake.com X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:10449 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:10449 Kim Storm wrote: - include the necessary documentation in the emacs distribution [meaning that we may have to (re)write that documentation ourselves], or I do not understand. Why would it need to be rewritten? Is GTK and its documentation free software? If we want it in the superior Texinfo format, of course, but what if we are (reluctantly) willing to use the html files as they are? That is all the URL would provide anyway. The document does not seem to be that huge. I took a look at it. Over a slow internet connection. Plenty of "10k read stalled". Forever. Interrupt transfer. Try again... More of the same. No fun. Note also that with an URL, you first have to remember to connect to the internet before you can double-click with mouse 2. Depending on the situation, getting connected can take a non-trivial amount of time. I actually have the documents in /usr/share/doc. If I did not and needed them, I guess that in the worst case I could use wget to get things on my own machine. Do the GTK people not provide more convenient ways than using wget? I could not find any on the site. Anyway, why not just include it in the Emacs distribution? Alternative solutions might be searching for the documentation in the user's file system or having the location provided by the user in some Emacs variable. Any of this as an intermediate solution until somebody finds the time to write a suitable Texinfo documentation. Sincerely, Luc.