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From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: iso-8859-1 and non-latin-1 chars
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:42:12 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200212160042.JAA03616@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <rzqlm2rfdx0.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk> (message from Dave Love on 15 Dec 2002 16:24:43 +0000)

In article <rzqlm2rfdx0.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk>, Dave Love <d.love@dl.ac.uk> writes:
> Sure, but the cases I'm particularly thinking of are actually
> programs, not interactive use.  I think it's better to get escape
> codes, which can be reconstructed, than to get `?', which can't.

Yes, it's better for Emacs, but not for the other programs
(e.g. ispell).  And such Emacs Lisp applications that use
wrong coding system should be fixed anyway.

> I realize this won't work generally, and will be different
> for Emacs 22.  In Emacs 22, it would be reasonable to do
> what yudit does (as far as I remember) and write
> representations of the unicodes involved as \uxxxx or
> similar.

I was also thinking about that for emacs-unicode.  Perhaps
using the same format as yudit is good.   And, we'll provide
a command `recover-unencoded-characters'.

>>  So, my conclusion was that writing out those escape
>>  sequences not only violates the commonly accepted concept
>>  about a coding system,

> What concept do you mean, exactly?

For instance, the MIME charset iso-8859-1 can encode Latin-1
chars only, and it's stateless, no escape sequences.

---
Ken'ichi HANDA
handa@m17n.org

  reply	other threads:[~2002-12-16  0:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-28 17:01 iso-8859-1 and non-latin-1 chars Dave Love
2002-12-02 15:47 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-06 16:38   ` Dave Love
2002-12-09  6:08     ` Kenichi Handa
2002-12-15 16:24       ` Dave Love
2002-12-16  0:42         ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2002-12-19 22:35           ` Dave Love
2002-12-23  6:40             ` Kenichi Handa
2002-12-23 12:27               ` Dave Love
2002-12-25 13:05                 ` Kenichi Handa
2002-12-31 17:14                   ` Ken Stevens
2003-01-06 19:28                     ` Dave Love
2003-01-06 19:18                   ` Dave Love
2003-01-07 13:01                     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-01-10 10:59                       ` Dave Love
2003-01-06 19:19                   ` Dave Love
2002-12-16 14:06         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-12-19 22:33           ` Dave Love
2002-12-16 16:42         ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]       ` <E18LZqb-0007si-00@fencepost.gnu.org>
2002-12-15 16:25         ` Dave Love
2002-12-16 16:42           ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]     ` <E18LCz8-0004It-00@fencepost.gnu.org>
2002-12-10 23:47       ` Dave Love
2002-12-11 20:39         ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-13  2:58           ` Kenichi Handa
2002-12-14 18:31             ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-17 11:41               ` None Kenichi Handa
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-07 14:57 iso-8859-1 and non-latin-1 chars Stefan Monnier
2002-11-07 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-07 17:06   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-07 23:42     ` Kenichi Handa
2002-11-07 23:58       ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-09 11:54       ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-09 20:32         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-11 10:19           ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-11  4:00         ` Kenichi Handa
2002-11-12  5:47           ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-18  0:08             ` Kenichi Handa
2002-11-18 19:09               ` Richard Stallman

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