From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 21.2.90 pretest, 21.3, 21.4... Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 09:02:01 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <20021105085714.0CDB.LEKTU@terra.es> References: <200211041831.gA4IV0N24471@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1036483891 18324 80.91.224.249 (5 Nov 2002 08:11:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 188yo6-0004lQ-00 for ; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 09:11:30 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 188yw1-00051L-00 for ; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 09:19:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 188yni-0001nf-00; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 03:11:06 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 188yfH-0001tt-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 03:02:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 188yfF-0001tZ-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 03:02:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [62.22.27.141] (helo=mail.peoplecall.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 188yfE-0001tS-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 03:02:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [62.22.27.143] (jbarranquero.ofi.peoplecall.com [62.22.27.143]) by mail.peoplecall.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA581s017458; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:01:54 +0100 Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.05.06 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9129 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9129 On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:05:29 +0200 (IST), Eli Zaretskii wrote: > IMHO, it doesn't make sense to feature-freeze the trunk unless we decide > not to release from the branch anymore. Since there was a decision to > release 21.3 from the branch, the decision not to feature-freeze followed > almost automatically. OK, but then, as soon as 21.3 hits the streets, we *should* create a new release branch, feature-freeze it and start pretesting it. If we want a shinny new-features release sometime before 2004, I mean. And it's my *strong* believe we should want it. Like it or not, users and developers are more attracted if it seems there's movement. I'd bet people out there things Emacs development is glacial. > For 21.3, maybe. But for 21.2, I disagree. You effectively suggest to > eliminate bugfix releases, which I think would be wrong: users will have > no stable versions to rely upon. I cannot talk on behalf of Steffan, but at least I, who started the thread, *don't* suggest such a thing. I suggest schedules. /L/e/k/t/u