From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 21.2.90 pretest, 21.3, 21.4... Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:31:00 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200211041831.gA4IV0N24471@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: <20021104170119.BAB6.LEKTU@terra.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1036435586 25529 80.91.224.249 (4 Nov 2002 18:46:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 188mCZ-0006Ry-00 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 19:43:55 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 188mKD-0003rC-00 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 19:51:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 188mBE-0000Sj-00; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:42:32 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 188m0F-0005oS-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:31:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 188m09-0005nv-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:31:10 -0500 Original-Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu ([128.36.229.169]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 188m09-0005nr-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:31:05 -0500 Original-Received: (from monnier@localhost) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA4IV0N24471; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:31:00 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 Original-To: Juanma Barranquero Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9119 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9119 > We're just on the second pretest of 21.3. I think it's fair to assume > it'll be still a few months (at least two or three) before 21.3 hits the > streets. Even if we feature-freeze 21.4-to-be at this moment and start > pretesting it like mad, it'll be almost two years since the last > feature-packed release was introduced to the public. 22.1 with Unicode > will be much further yet along the way. [...] I obviously agree since I called for a feature freeze a few weeks (months?) back already. I also think that 21.2 should have been taken from the trunk rather than from the RC branch and same thing for 21.3. This way we'd get new features more quickly into release and we'd get the trunk code tested more thoroughly as well. As Dave has explained the bug-fix release 21.3 will still be riddled with bugs that we have fixed on the trunk months ago. Maybe it will be a bit more stable from one particular point of view because it doesn't use any new code that might introduce new bugs, but I'm definitely not convinced that it outweighs the number of unfixed non-trivial bugs. Stefan