From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: 21.2.90 pretest, 21.3, 21.4... Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:16:24 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <20021104170119.BAB6.LEKTU@terra.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1036427912 15034 80.91.224.249 (4 Nov 2002 16:38:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 188k9S-0003BU-00 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:32:34 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 188kH3-0000vF-00 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:40:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 188k6j-0003xn-00; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:29:45 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 188jtu-0004rr-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:16:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 188jtq-0004p1-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:16:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [62.22.27.141] (helo=mail.peoplecall.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 188jtp-0004oh-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:16:25 -0500 Original-Received: from [62.22.27.143] (jbarranquero.ofi.peoplecall.com [62.22.27.143]) by mail.peoplecall.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4GGO010105 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:16:24 +0100 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.05.06 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9113 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9113 21.1 was released on 2001-10-20, more than a year ago. 21.2 was released on 2002-03-16, almost eight months ago. We're just on the second pretest of 21.3. I think it's fair to assume it'll be still a few months (at least two or three) before 21.3 hits the streets. Even if we feature-freeze 21.4-to-be at this moment and start pretesting it like mad, it'll be almost two years since the last feature-packed release was introduced to the public. 22.1 with Unicode will be much further yet along the way. OK, I know that: - we don't *have* to be faster than that - we prefer quality releases - people really interested in features vs. stability can access the CVS Still, I wonder if we should try to pack less punch in each release, and release a bit faster than we're doing today. I fear that this (totally apparent, but public perception counts) stagnation can lead people to other editors, or (worse, although more improbably) more Emacs branching. Also, it's tough trying to evangelize people when I know that some much-appreciated features are just in the HEAD and won't see the light in a year or two... Of course, I don't know what we should do, other than attracting more people to Emacs development. Perhaps a tentative schedule like the one in GCC would be a first step, but I'm not sure. Or perhaps the problem is only on my mind; in that case, sorry for taking your time. /L/e/k/t/u