From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [F.J.Wright@qmul.ac.uk: rcs2log] Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:43:06 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <20021030083724.5BCC.LEKTU@terra.es> References: <20021029082806.A079.LEKTU@terra.es> <7458-Tue29Oct2002223952+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035963887 32551 80.91.224.249 (30 Oct 2002 07:44:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, F.J.Wright@qmul.ac.uk Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 186nWw-0008Sk-00 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:44:46 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 186nbv-0004Fh-00 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:49:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 186nWb-00067t-00; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 02:44:25 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 186nVW-0003wK-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 02:43:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 186nVT-0003uC-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 02:43:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [62.22.27.141] (helo=mail.peoplecall.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 186nVT-0003tp-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 02:43:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [62.22.27.143] (jbarranquero.ofi.peoplecall.com [62.22.27.143]) by mail.peoplecall.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U7h4b11678; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:43:05 +0100 Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <7458-Tue29Oct2002223952+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il> X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.05.06 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8940 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8940 On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:39:53 +0300, "Eli Zaretskii" wrote: > Why is it fragile? Because you are executing programs that you don't control (what if trying a sort.exe causes a crash or any other kind of problem), and because probably it'd fail if I happen to modify the PATH afterwards. If I have to manually configure a variable and after a while I change the path I'm more prone to remember it that if Emacs somehow configured it behind my back. > This would require users to customize the variable. Without a proper > customization, the relevant feature will be broken. Sure. But we already have cases like these now, and they're resolved by having -program variables. The first "find.exe" in my PATH is C:\WINNT\system32\find.exe. Same for ftp and telnet. Ange-FTP didn't try to find what was the "right" ftp, I manually configured `ange-ftp-ftp-program'. Having good defaults helps here. /L/e/k/t/u