From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: MULE shows gibberish; now what? Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:51:02 +0900 (JST) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200210100151.KAA19779@etlken.m17n.org> References: <5lu1jvfp9c.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200210100029.JAA19642@etlken.m17n.org> <200210100055.g9A0tQg04263@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1034214801 5699 127.0.0.1 (10 Oct 2002 01:53:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 01:53:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier+gnu.emacs.help/news/@rum.cs.yale.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ilya@Math.Berkeley.EDU Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17zSVs-0001Tn-00 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 03:53:20 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17zTKB-0001Oq-00 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 04:45:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17zSUm-0004uv-00; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 21:52:12 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17zSTx-0003CZ-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 21:51:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17zSTq-0002nT-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 21:51:19 -0400 Original-Received: from tsukuba.m17n.org ([192.47.44.130]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17zSTp-0002gX-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 21:51:13 -0400 Original-Received: from fs.m17n.org (fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.11.6/3.7W-20010518204228) with ESMTP id g9A1p2F05932; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:51:02 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from etlken.m17n.org (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by fs.m17n.org (8.11.3/3.7W-20010823150639) with ESMTP id g9A1p2R23412; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:51:02 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from handa@localhost) by etlken.m17n.org (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W-2001040620) id KAA19779; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:51:02 +0900 (JST) Original-To: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu In-reply-to: <200210100055.g9A0tQg04263@rum.cs.yale.edu> (monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/21.1.30 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8496 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8496 In article <200210100055.g9A0tQg04263@rum.cs.yale.edu>, "Stefan Monnier" writes: >> To get those properties, we must call XListFontsWithInfo >> which, I think, is very slow compared with XListFonts. >> Perhaps, we must introduce a variable, for instance, >> `unreliable-font-registry-encoding-name-list, use >> XListFontsWithInfo only to find a font whose >> registry-encoding matches with this variable. > I was indeed thinking that it would probably be too costly preformancewise. > Although maybe we could do a sanity-check late in the game (after we have > settled on a particular font) and if the sanity check fails, we add > the fontname to face-ignored-fonts and try again. Ah, yes, that method is less costy. >> Is that intention different from this? >> >> (dolist (fontset (fontest-list)) >> (set-fontset-font fontset 'cyrillic-iso8859-5 >> '("etl-fixed" . "iso8859-5"))) > No, that sounds just right. But I think such things should be > documented in the Emacs Manual (and thus understandable to someone > who's not proficient in ELisp). Isn't such a thing too cryptic to go in Emacs Manual. It's a long term todo item to provide a good cutomization method of font related things. The problem is that no one have a time to investigate it and work on it. :-( --- Ken'ichi HANDA handa@m17n.org