From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: MULE shows gibberish; now what? Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:30:45 +0900 (JST) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200210100130.KAA19758@etlken.m17n.org> References: <5lu1jvfp9c.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200210100029.JAA19642@etlken.m17n.org> <20021010005818.GC3346@math.berkeley.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1034213604 1685 127.0.0.1 (10 Oct 2002 01:33:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 01:33:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier+gnu.emacs.help/news/@rum.cs.yale.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17zSCY-0000Qy-00 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 03:33:22 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17zT0r-0000t7-00 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 04:25:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17zSAN-0002dr-00; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 21:31:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17zSAF-0002a2-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 21:30:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17zSAD-0002Xd-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 21:30:58 -0400 Original-Received: from tsukuba.m17n.org ([192.47.44.130]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17zSAD-0002UU-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 21:30:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fs.m17n.org (fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.11.6/3.7W-20010518204228) with ESMTP id g9A1UkF05742; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:30:46 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from etlken.m17n.org (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by fs.m17n.org (8.11.3/3.7W-20010823150639) with ESMTP id g9A1UkR23284; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:30:46 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from handa@localhost) by etlken.m17n.org (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W-2001040620) id KAA19758; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:30:45 +0900 (JST) Original-To: ilya@Math.Berkeley.EDU In-reply-to: <20021010005818.GC3346@math.berkeley.edu> (message from Ilya Zakharevich on Wed, 9 Oct 2002 17:58:19 -0700) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/21.1.30 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8495 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8495 In article <20021010005818.GC3346@math.berkeley.edu>, Ilya Zakharevich writes: >> Perhaps, we must introduce a variable, for instance, >> `unreliable-font-registry-encoding-name-list, use >> XListFontsWithInfo only to find a font whose >> registry-encoding matches with this variable. > OK, if you do this, please put '-cronix-*' fonts there. It is a > horrible thing what they did. Then, could you please try the first method I wrote like this: (setq face-ignored-fonts '("-cronix")) >> > BTW, I agree that the fontset management could be made simpler (I think >> > it's not just a question of the doc being dense or incomplete). >> > Especially in your case, there should be some way to say something like: >> >> > (fontset-prefer-font 'cyrillic-iso8859-5 "-etl-fixed-*-iso8859-5") >> >> Is that intention different from this? >> >> (dolist (fontset (fontest-list)) >> (set-fontset-font fontset 'cyrillic-iso8859-5 >> '("etl-fixed" . "iso8859-5"))) > Would not work if there is no etl-fixed fonts on the site? In such a case, Emacs tries to find fonts ignoring that foundry/family spec. So, you must use face-ignored-fonts as above. --- Ken'ichi HANDA handa@m17n.org