From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: status of utf-8.el, etc [Re: Several serious problems] Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:26:20 +0900 (JST) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200210090126.KAA18196@etlken.m17n.org> References: <200208190748.QAA14278@etlken.m17n.org> <200208291325.WAA03596@etlken.m17n.org> <200208291732.g7THWRU11411@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200209250701.QAA10989@etlken.m17n.org> <200209300909.SAA05081@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1034126856 2621 127.0.0.1 (9 Oct 2002 01:27:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 01:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, keichwa@gmx.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17z5dO-0000g8-00 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 03:27:34 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17z6RD-0007xs-00 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 04:19:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17z5cy-0001Mw-00; Tue, 08 Oct 2002 21:27:08 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17z5cj-0000t2-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2002 21:26:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17z5ch-0000s3-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2002 21:26:52 -0400 Original-Received: from tsukuba.m17n.org ([192.47.44.130]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17z5cf-0000oh-00; Tue, 08 Oct 2002 21:26:49 -0400 Original-Received: from fs.m17n.org (fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.11.6/3.7W-20010518204228) with ESMTP id g991QLF06594; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:26:21 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from etlken.m17n.org (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by fs.m17n.org (8.11.3/3.7W-20010823150639) with ESMTP id g991QKR16404; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:26:20 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from handa@localhost) by etlken.m17n.org (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W-2001040620) id KAA18196; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:26:20 +0900 (JST) Original-To: d.love@dl.ac.uk In-reply-to: (message from Dave Love on 04 Oct 2002 23:32:02 +0100) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/21.1.30 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8467 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8467 In article , Dave Love writes: > Kenichi Handa writes: >> >> (1-2) utf-8-translate-cjk can never be turned off once >> >> turned on. >> >> > I don't think it should be toggled; >> >> Then, why do we have this now? >> (defcustom utf-translate-cjk nil ...) > It's there so that people can find the facility and have the option > not to load it, since it involves quite large tables. For such a case, isn't `feature' enough? Those who want this feature just does (require FEATURE). >> One may or may not want select-safe-coding-system to decide >> utf-8 as the default for a buffer that contains CJK charsets >> and etc. I'm not sure. > That should be taken care of by coding priorities, surely, just as > with Mule-UCS. Ah, hmmm, yes. --- Ken'ichi HANDA handa@m17n.org