From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs cvs newbie problems Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 11:51:51 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200210071551.g97Fppd01275@f7.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1034006265 32079 127.0.0.1 (7 Oct 2002 15:57:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 15:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17yaGN-0008LE-00 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2002 17:57:43 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17yb3V-0001Jn-00 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2002 18:48:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17yaDC-00011M-00; Mon, 07 Oct 2002 11:54:26 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17yaBI-0005ze-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2002 11:52:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17yaAv-0005MK-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2002 11:52:07 -0400 Original-Received: from consort.superb.net ([209.61.216.22] helo=f7.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17yaAk-000578-00; Mon, 07 Oct 2002 11:51:54 -0400 Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by f7.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g97Fppd01275; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 11:51:51 -0400 Original-To: rms@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8444 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8444 Here is an idea: follow the categories of the Free Software Directory. What do you think of that idea? You won't have to make a table of your own. I think that's a fine idea in principle, and I'll change the Texinfo manual to recommend this. Thanks. Did you have in mind using just the top level categories, or categories at any level? It almost would seem that we want to replicate that whole structure in the dir file, but dir files aren't set up to allow such a thing right now. BTW, browsing around http://www.gnu.org/directory/, I am pretty baffled by some of the categorizations. I would have never have guess that diff would be under "word processing", for example (although I can see why in retrospect, using an unusual definition of the phrase). Also, basic programs like cp/ls/mv fit are not listed except under `All GNU Packages'. Seems like there should be a category for ... what ... File Manipulation? And it almost seems to me like `Miscellaneous' should not exist -- it's against the principle of organizing packages usefully in the first place. At any rate, it will still take a lot more time than I can commit to find where existing manuals fit into those categories, contact manual authors, get them to make the changes, etc. Perhaps someone out there would like to volunteer.