From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: problem of define-minor-mode while bootstrapping Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:06:53 +0900 (JST) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200209240306.MAA09181@etlken.m17n.org> References: <200209210157.KAA05776@etlken.m17n.org> <200209222254.g8MMs8I26785@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200209230208.LAA07889@etlken.m17n.org> <200209231827.g8NIRl430076@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1032836951 4626 127.0.0.1 (24 Sep 2002 03:09:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 03:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, d.love@dl.ac.uk Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17tg4U-0001CU-00 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 05:09:10 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17tgl3-00039K-00 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 05:53:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17tg4T-0001Zw-00; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 23:09:09 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17tg2g-0001MG-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 23:07:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17tg2e-0001M4-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 23:07:17 -0400 Original-Received: from tsukuba.m17n.org ([192.47.44.130]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17tg2d-0001M0-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 23:07:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fs.m17n.org (fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.11.6/3.7W-20010518204228) with ESMTP id g8O36sK11116; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:06:54 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from etlken.m17n.org (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by fs.m17n.org (8.11.3/3.7W-20010823150639) with ESMTP id g8O36sd22796; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:06:54 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from handa@localhost) by etlken.m17n.org (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W-2001040620) id MAA09181; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:06:53 +0900 (JST) Original-To: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu In-reply-to: <200209231827.g8NIRl430076@rum.cs.yale.edu> (monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/21.1.30 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8135 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8135 "Stefan Monnier" writes: >> In article <200209222254.g8MMs8I26785@rum.cs.yale.edu>, "Stefan Monnier" writes: >> If it's the programmer's responsibility, it is cleaner that >> we have this line: >> (ucs-unify-8859 'encode-only) >> just after (define-minor-mode unify-8859-on-encoding-mode >> ...) in ucs-tables.el than having it in loadup.el. > Maybe. I have no opinion on that one. Ok, I'll fix it later. >> > If you want it to be automatic, then what's wrong with the code >> > suggested above to which you said "No" ? >> >> Because it doesn't solve the original problem, i.e., >> eval-after-load doesn't work at bootstrapping time. > Doesn't it ? Why not ? I wrote the reason in the first mail of this thread as below: > In that case, define-minor-mode calls eval-after-load, and > it calls load-symbol-file-load-history, and it tries to load > fns-XXX.el. But, at bootstrapping time, fns-XXX.el is not > yet created. --- Ken'ichi HANDA handa@etl.go.jp