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From: Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, karl@freefriends.org, hattons@speakeasy.net,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs cvs newbie problems
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:09:51 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200209200309.WAA03597@eel.dms.auburn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9003-Wed18Sep2002214449+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il>

I assume that what we are talking about is the output of C-h i (or
equivalently Help -> More Manuals -> All Other Manuals (Info) on the
menu-bar).

I have two small remarks on this.

First, why is the more convenient key binding C-h i not mentioned on
the menu-bar entry?  It was mentioned in Emacs20.7, but somehow
disappeared in Emacs21.

Secondly, what part of the following is intentional, a system specific
problem or a bug in the current CVS version?

From the C-h i output:

Texinfo documentation system
* Info: (info).         How to use the documentation browsing system.
* Texinfo: (texinfo).           The GNU documentation format.
* info standalone: (info-stnd).            Read Info documents without Emacs.
* infokey: (info-stnd)Invoking infokey.    Compile Info customizations.
* install-info: (texinfo)Invoking install-info. Update info/dir entries.
* makeinfo: (texinfo)Invoking makeinfo.         Translate Texinfo source.
* texi2dvi: (texinfo)Format with texi2dvi.      Print Texinfo documents.
* texindex: (texinfo)Format with tex/texindex.  Sort Texinfo index files.

Texinfo documentation system
* Info: (info).         How to use the documentation browsing system.
* Texinfo: (texinfo).           The GNU documentation format.
* info standalone: (info-stnd).            Read Info documents without Emacs.
* infokey: (info-stnd)Invoking infokey.    Compile Info customizations.
* install-info: (texinfo)Invoking install-info. Update info/dir entries.
* makeinfo: (texinfo)Invoking makeinfo.         Translate Texinfo source.
* texi2dvi: (texinfo)Format with texi2dvi.      Print Texinfo documents.
* texindex: (texinfo)Format with tex/texindex.  Sort Texinfo index files.

Texinfo documentation system
* Standalone info program: (info-stnd).    Standalone Info-reading program.
* Texinfo: (texinfo).           The GNU documentation format.
* install-info: (texinfo)Invoking install-info. Update info/dir entries.
* makeinfo: (texinfo)Invoking makeinfo.         Translate Texinfo source.
* texi2dvi: (texinfo)Format with texi2dvi.      Print Texinfo documents.
* texindex: (texinfo)Format with tex/texindex.  Sort Texinfo index files.


It would seem to me that the first identical repetition is a bug.  It
does not occur in Emacs21.2.90 on the same system.

The third slightly different version might be intentional and be meant
more for the standalone version.  It does appear in earlier Emacs
versions too.  It is confusing however.  If it is intentional a
non-identical title might help.  "Standalone info program" in the
third copy seems to lead to exactly the same buffer as "info
standalone" in the two previous copies.  Is that third copy not quite
simply a bug too?

Emacs version and system information:

*** Welcome to IELM ***  Type (describe-mode) for help.
ELISP> (emacs-version)
"GNU Emacs 21.3.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit)\n of 2002-09-19 on swt40.swt.com"
ELISP> system-configuration
"i686-pc-linux-gnu"
ELISP> 

I am running Red Hat 7.2.

Sincerely,

Luc.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-20  3:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-16  0:02 Emacs cvs newbie problems Karl Berry
2002-09-16  1:41 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-16  2:14   ` Alan Shutko
2002-09-16  5:40     ` Rob Browning
2002-09-18 18:46       ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-16  1:51 ` Steven T. Hatton
2002-09-16 19:28 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-18 18:44   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-20  3:09     ` Luc Teirlinck [this message]
2002-09-20  4:45       ` Miles Bader
2002-09-20 18:42       ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-20 21:21         ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-20 21:28       ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-20 22:07         ` Luc Teirlinck
2002-09-20 22:41           ` Luc Teirlinck
2002-09-21  8:27           ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-21 19:39           ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-21 22:13             ` Luc Teirlinck
2002-09-22  4:49               ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-30  2:49               ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-30  3:40                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2002-09-30  5:32                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-01  6:17                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-01  7:49                     ` Miles Bader
2002-09-20 22:19         ` Luc Teirlinck
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-10-07 15:51 Karl Berry
2002-10-07 16:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-10-07 15:51 Karl Berry
2002-10-08 17:21 ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-04 15:57 Karl Berry
2002-10-05 16:33 ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-04 13:00 Karl Berry
2002-10-04 15:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-10-04 19:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-05 16:33   ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-04 22:08 ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-04 22:28   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-10-06 16:14     ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-03 15:07 Karl Berry
2002-10-02 13:36 Karl Berry
2002-10-02 20:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-02 13:36 Karl Berry
2002-10-03  0:32 ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-02 13:36 Karl Berry
2002-10-03  0:33 ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-03  4:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-04  3:48     ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-04 10:05   ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-10-04 15:46     ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-04 18:28       ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-10-05 16:33         ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-04 19:51     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-01 20:51 Karl Berry
2002-10-02  4:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-01 20:07 Karl Berry
2002-10-01 20:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-10-02 19:23   ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-02  4:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-01 17:24 Karl Berry
2002-10-01 18:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-10-01 14:13 Karl Berry
2002-10-02  4:07 ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-01 14:13 Karl Berry
2002-10-01 18:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-01 18:42   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-10-02  4:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-02  4:07 ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-01 14:13 Karl Berry
2002-10-01 14:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-10-02  4:07   ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-02  4:07 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-30 21:43 Karl Berry
2002-10-01  4:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-30 14:12 Karl Berry
2002-09-30 18:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-01  6:18 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-16 21:07 Karl Berry
2002-09-14 20:40 Steven T. Hatton
2002-09-14 21:12 ` Luc Teirlinck
2002-09-14 22:11   ` Steven T. Hatton
2002-09-14 23:03     ` Luc Teirlinck
2002-09-15  1:24       ` Steven T. Hatton
2002-09-15  2:42         ` Luc Teirlinck
2002-09-15 11:13           ` Steven T. Hatton
2002-09-15 12:42         ` Miles Bader
2002-09-15 20:50         ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-15 20:50         ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-15  0:08     ` Luc Teirlinck
2002-09-15 20:50       ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-15 15:37     ` Luc Teirlinck
2002-09-15 15:16 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-14  6:20 Steven T. Hatton
2002-09-14  6:40 ` Damien Elmes
2002-09-15  1:50 ` Richard Stallman

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