From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs cvs newbie problems Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 21:42:53 -0500 (CDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200209150242.VAA22302@eel.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200209141640.25576.hattons@speakeasy.net> <200209142112.QAA22096@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <200209141811.18129.hattons@speakeasy.net> <200209142303.SAA22156@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <3D83E164.1040901@speakeasy.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1032057847 9133 127.0.0.1 (15 Sep 2002 02:44:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 02:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17qPOH-0002NB-00 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 04:44:05 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17qQ0v-0000BZ-00 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 05:24:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17qPOR-0003ex-00; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 22:44:15 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17qPN7-0003bP-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 22:42:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17qPN5-0003bD-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 22:42:53 -0400 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17qPN5-0003b9-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 22:42:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eel.dms.auburn.edu (eel.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.108]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA11651; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 21:42:50 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by eel.dms.auburn.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA22302; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 21:42:53 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: eel.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: hattons@speakeasy.net In-reply-to: <3D83E164.1040901@speakeasy.net> (hattons@speakeasy.net) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7919 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7919 Steven T. Hatton wrote: So, if I do have a *specific* question, it is, where to I find the 'how to install packages, gospel, accoring to the pros'? Perhaps you've answered this by telling me to look at the documentation for each package. I gave you a completely general answer to a completely general question. I believe that, for certain specific specialized packages, you have to do look at the documentation for those packages. Some packages are of such a nature that they are extremely unlikely to be used by "newbies" anyway. For the most often used packages, especially those most often used by newbies, the customize facility provides a simpler alternative to the ".emacs solution". Try Customize Emacs under Options on the menu-bar, for instance. I gave you specific answers to your specific questions. I pointed out which of the difficulties you encountered were misconceptions on your part and which ones were bugs in emacs-21.3.50. However, I am not going to discuss the very general philosophical issues you raised. I am just an "ordinary subscriber" to this list and not an "official spokesperson" for Emacs. Sincerely, Luc.