From: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu>
Cc: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu>,
rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Customizing key bindings (was: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound..)
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 09:53:31 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200209091353.g89DrVE18279@rum.cs.yale.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: rjptvq6j9g.fsf@zuse.dina.kvl.dk
> If you want to make configuration easy to the end-users, you need to
> start with their needs, and not with the old textual configuration
> files. It is one area where MS Windows and Mac programmers tend to be
> better than Unix programmers.
But I (as a programmer-style user) simply hate those interfaces because
I have no way to relate them to the real underlying concepts so that
I end up forced to use the "user-friendly" interface all the time,
with all its limitations.
If that's what Emacs will turn into, then I'll switch to something
else (or will keep on using an old version or something).
After all, Emacs is AFAIK a text-editor with a strong "programmer" user
base and it doesn't make sense to alienate this user-base in order to
try and attract people whose only editing needs are for email messages.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-09-09 13:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 221+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-08-23 14:15 [CVS] f7, f8 bound D. Goel
2002-08-25 23:16 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-25 22:39 ` D. Goel
2002-08-26 15:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-27 2:02 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-27 8:56 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-27 8:55 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-27 8:55 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-08-27 10:32 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-27 10:01 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-08-27 11:55 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-27 11:07 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-08-27 16:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-28 1:12 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-28 9:33 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-28 8:54 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-28 9:09 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-08-28 10:58 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-28 10:21 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-08-28 9:09 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-28 10:47 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-28 14:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-29 14:35 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-29 17:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-08 23:02 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-09-09 10:49 ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-09-09 13:43 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-09 19:14 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-09 23:34 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-10 21:50 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-09-09 23:45 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-09-10 16:36 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-10 12:17 ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-09-10 23:16 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-09-11 9:03 ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-08-28 13:37 ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-08-28 14:28 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-08-28 14:41 ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-08-28 23:33 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-29 9:25 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-08-30 6:09 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-30 14:48 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-30 23:55 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-31 11:21 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-01 13:14 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-01 14:22 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-01 14:37 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-02 17:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-02 17:54 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-02 23:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-03 10:55 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-03 13:02 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-03 13:53 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-03 15:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-03 17:31 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-03 19:27 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-09-03 22:56 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-03 23:53 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-04 11:59 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-04 22:35 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-03 23:23 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-04 10:31 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-04 15:30 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-04 22:25 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-05 13:00 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-05 10:00 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-05 14:59 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-05 16:18 ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-09-05 19:13 ` D. Goel
2002-09-05 15:05 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-05 18:03 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-04 22:00 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-05 10:15 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-06 1:16 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-06 10:07 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-06 22:19 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-07 12:40 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-06 17:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-06 22:21 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-07 0:53 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-09-07 0:32 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-07 7:59 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 10:28 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-09 13:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-09 15:45 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-09 23:34 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-07 10:28 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-07 7:45 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 14:08 ` Customizing key bindings Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 23:43 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-09 8:05 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-09 9:19 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-09 12:20 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-09 14:09 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-09 15:23 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-09 17:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-09 14:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-09 23:34 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-09 23:33 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-10 10:29 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-11 1:40 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-10 17:57 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-11 3:05 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-11 8:52 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-09 0:21 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-09 1:52 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-09 23:33 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-05 2:47 ` [CVS] f7, f8 bound Richard Stallman
2002-09-05 9:39 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-04 14:23 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-03 14:12 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-03 15:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-03 15:17 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-02 14:53 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-02 16:40 ` Customizing key bindings (was: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound..) Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-02 21:55 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-03 12:27 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-03 22:35 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-03 22:49 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-04 0:45 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-04 10:00 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-05 2:47 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-05 9:18 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-06 4:01 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-06 9:51 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-04 15:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-05 9:26 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-06 4:01 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-06 22:30 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-09-07 14:12 ` Customizing key bindings Alex Schroeder
2002-09-05 18:03 ` Customizing key bindings (was: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound..) Richard Stallman
2002-09-05 18:35 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-06 15:10 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-05 2:46 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-05 16:17 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-06 4:01 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-07 13:50 ` Customizing key bindings Alex Schroeder
2002-09-05 16:47 ` Customizing key bindings (was: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound..) Kai Großjohann
2002-09-07 14:20 ` use diff-list in Emacs Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 15:52 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-07 22:46 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-08 19:22 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-04 14:20 ` Customizing key bindings (was: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound..) Richard Stallman
2002-09-05 17:20 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-06 17:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-06 22:03 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-07 12:01 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-07 12:40 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-07 13:07 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-07 14:17 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-07 17:48 ` What custom is and does Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 22:57 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-09 7:49 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-07 18:58 ` Customizing key bindings (was: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound..) Kai Großjohann
2002-09-09 13:53 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2002-09-09 14:59 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-09 23:34 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-07 9:06 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 12:11 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-07 9:15 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 12:28 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-07 13:48 ` Customizing key bindings Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 13:56 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 13:39 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-07 15:10 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-09 22:06 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-09 22:12 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-09 22:49 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-09 22:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-10 10:19 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-08 12:54 ` Customizing key bindings (was: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound..) Richard Stallman
2002-09-09 7:57 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-09 23:33 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-10 18:07 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-11 3:04 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-11 8:49 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-11 20:03 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-09 21:09 ` Alex Schroeder
[not found] ` <m2it1qqmae.fsf@primate.xs4all.nl>
2002-09-01 10:36 ` [CVS] f7, f8 bound Miles Bader
2002-09-01 13:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-01 13:45 ` Pavel Janík
2002-09-01 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-01 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-01 13:14 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-06 12:55 ` Francesco Potorti`
[not found] ` <m2r8geqole.fsf@primate.xs4all.nl>
2002-09-01 5:19 ` Damien Elmes
2002-09-02 0:01 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-03 0:04 ` David A. Cobb
2002-08-29 14:38 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-29 13:47 ` Francesco Potorti`
[not found] ` <m2wuq6qpai.fsf@primate.xs4all.nl>
2002-09-01 10:45 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-28 18:42 ` Edward O'Connor
2002-08-29 1:16 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-28 23:32 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-29 1:14 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-30 6:10 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-30 6:22 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-30 19:17 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-31 0:40 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-31 2:16 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-01 13:15 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-02 1:23 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-02 10:22 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-09-02 9:38 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-03 13:26 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-03 14:39 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-09-04 14:21 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-08 22:51 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-30 6:10 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-30 14:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-30 19:19 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-31 0:00 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-31 11:28 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-08-30 14:49 ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-08-31 0:33 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-31 6:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-08-29 14:42 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-30 1:05 ` Miles Bader
2002-08-30 12:07 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-08-30 6:09 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-28 6:52 ` Richard Stallman
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