From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound.. Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:56:35 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <20020903225635.GA26910@gnu.org> References: <200209021705.g82H50d07442@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200209022324.g82NOoO08761@rum.cs.yale.edu> <20020903130247.GA6318@gnu.org> <20020903173120.GA29981@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031093783 27898 127.0.0.1 (3 Sep 2002 22:56:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 22:56:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Per Abrahamsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17mMas-0007Fp-00 for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 00:56:22 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17mN9m-00046A-00 for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 01:32:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17mMcR-0007vO-00; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 18:57:59 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17mMb7-0007tM-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 18:56:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17mMb5-0007tA-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 18:56:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17mMb5-0007t4-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 18:56:35 -0400 Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 17mMb5-00078B-00; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 18:56:35 -0400 Original-To: Andreas Schwab Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Blat: Foop Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7409 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7409 On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 09:27:59PM +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote: > |> The `Lisp world' is a superset of the customize one. > > This isn't actually true any more. There are already variables that do > any effect only when set through customize. ... but they're still visible from lisp, so they still confuse people. This is actually a good example of a mechanism established for the use of customize which ends up `dirtying the waters' for people who use anything more. -miles -- P.S. All information contained in the above letter is false, for reasons of military security.