From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: please consider emacs-unicode for pervasive changes Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:15:50 +0900 (JST) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200209030615.PAA10378@etlken.m17n.org> References: <200208090754.g797s6s11972@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200208130030.JAA26246@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031033795 14410 127.0.0.1 (3 Sep 2002 06:16:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 06:16:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: raeburn@raeburn.org, monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17m6zJ-0003kJ-00 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 08:16:33 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17m7Xt-0005Zw-00 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 08:52:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17m70b-0007VR-00; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 02:17:53 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17m6yt-0006wt-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 02:16:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17m6yr-0006wE-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 02:16:07 -0400 Original-Received: from tsukuba.m17n.org ([192.47.44.130]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17m6yq-0006vV-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 02:16:04 -0400 Original-Received: from fs.m17n.org (fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.11.6/3.7W-20010518204228) with ESMTP id g836Fxl28565; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:15:59 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from etlken.m17n.org (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by fs.m17n.org (8.11.3/3.7W-20010823150639) with ESMTP id g836Fo912202; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:15:59 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from handa@localhost) by etlken.m17n.org (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W-2001040620) id PAA10378; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:15:50 +0900 (JST) Original-To: d.love@dl.ac.uk In-Reply-To: (message from Dave Love on 31 Aug 2002 18:07:17 +0100) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/21.1.30 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7366 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7366 In article , Dave Love writes: > Kenichi Handa writes: >> For the other operations, I think emacs-unicode now works >> fairly well. > I think that depends. For one thing, it will typically clobber > iso-2022 files. Yes. On reading and writing iso-2022 files, Emacs-unicode may designate different charsets. I still can't find a time to fix it. But, is it a big problem? Even in Emacs 21, iso-2022 files may be changed just by reading and writing (e.g. by removing redundant escape sequences). > For another, redisplay is buggy, which is the main > reason I was looking to merge with the trunk in the first place. But, the trunk is also not stable in the area of redisplay in these days... The most frustrating redisplay bug of emacs-unicode I notice is that cursor sometimes disappear, and that was fixed in HEAD by Gerd's series of changes in April. --- Ken'ichi HANDA handa@etl.go.jp