From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound.. Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 06:36:52 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <20020901103652.GA9909@gnu.org> References: <5xhehfe3aj.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <874rdfaytt.fsf@pot.cnuce.cnr.it> <5xvg5sh06u.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <20020830235528.GA13207@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1030876628 22062 127.0.0.1 (1 Sep 2002 10:37:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 10:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17lS6N-0005jj-00 for ; Sun, 01 Sep 2002 12:37:07 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17lSe4-00030A-00 for ; Sun, 01 Sep 2002 13:11:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17lS7h-0006ac-00; Sun, 01 Sep 2002 06:38:29 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17lS6B-0006Yi-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Sep 2002 06:36:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17lS69-0006YV-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Sep 2002 06:36:54 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17lS68-0006YP-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Sep 2002 06:36:52 -0400 Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 17lS68-0002mx-00; Sun, 01 Sep 2002 06:36:52 -0400 Original-To: huug Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Blat: Foop Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7244 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7244 On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 08:03:21AM +0200, huug wrote: > By which standard was to do what? It pops up the menus. > Whatever it was, I cannot recall having encountered something even > approaching a standard for it (nor does Notepad;) The last time it was discussed, people came up with a list of things that use F10; in any case, it was `enough to matter.' > And may be standard, but Emacs doesn't adhere. Minimally, it > should do a C-h r, or better look up the current mode in the manual. The only standardized thing about F1 is that it `brings up help' in some way. The details vary widely over time and among different programs, and emacs' method is as good as any. As long as users know to hit it, they can follow the prompts from there. > Maybe change the behaviour of unbound keys from to > (what-do-you-want-me-to-do)? That sounds _extremely_ annoying... -Miles -- P.S. All information contained in the above letter is false, for reasons of military security.