From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [dane@mail.abcsinc.com: Scroll bars] Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:53:27 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200208191453.g7JErRv13421@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: <200208170450.g7H4ovd08634@wijiji.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1029768872 24535 127.0.0.1 (19 Aug 2002 14:54:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 14:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17gnvG-0006NY-00 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:54:26 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17goMj-0006Bo-00 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:22:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17gnwH-00039T-00; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:55:29 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17gnuQ-00034g-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:53:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17gnuK-000336-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:53:34 -0400 Original-Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu ([128.36.229.169]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17gnuK-00032v-00; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:53:28 -0400 Original-Received: (from monnier@localhost) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g7JErRv13421; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:53:27 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 Original-To: Richard Stallman Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6646 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6646 > Yet another user is saying that the scroll bar works all wrong. Some users expect the Motif-like behavior offered by Gtk/Lesstif/KDE/... and Xaw3d-with-scroll-bar-arrows, while others expect the old non-toolkit behavior which is also the standard behavior of Xaw and Xaw3d-without-scrollbar-arrows. > It seems clear that many users are going to be extremely > unhappy with the meanings of the buttons with the non-arrow version. > We need to develop code *in Emacs* to manipulate these Xresources > (or use some other method) so as to make the scroll bar work the way > users expect. > > Can you help? Fiddling with the Xaw3d toolkit's mouse-bindings via Xresources is not something I have the time and/or inclination to do right now, so I can't really help. Also this would only provide the customizability for Xaw3d but not for Lesstif. I don't know how to do such a customization for Lesstif. Stefan