From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: scroll-bar-toolkit-scroll Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:10:53 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200208161610.g7GGArI30782@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: <200207290112.g6T1Cvb12938@aztec.santafe.edu> <863cu2kdsh.fsf@gerd.free-bsd.org> <200207300059.g6U0xsw14569@aztec.santafe.edu> <864reh8tqr.fsf@gerd.free-bsd.org> <200207310554.g6V5slG16493@aztec.santafe.edu> <86d6t4glcx.fsf@gerd.free-bsd.org> <200208090712.g797CwY11593@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200208121707.g7CH71n06664@wijiji.santafe.edu> <200208121714.g7CHEmd29681@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200208132246.g7DMkMt07160@wijiji.santafe.edu> <200208142225.g7EMPbW20258@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200208151954.g7FJsBb07869@wijiji.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1029514220 19680 127.0.0.1 (16 Aug 2002 16:10:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, gerd.moellmann@t-online.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17fjg2-00057I-00 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 18:10:18 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17fk64-00085q-00 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 18:37:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17fjgz-0003g5-00; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:11:17 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17fjge-0003f0-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:10:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17fjgc-0003ei-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:10:55 -0400 Original-Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu ([128.36.229.169]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17fjgb-0003dm-00; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:10:53 -0400 Original-Received: (from monnier@localhost) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g7GGArI30782; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:10:53 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 Original-To: Richard Stallman Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6580 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6580 > Depends how Xaw3d was compiled (with or without the -DARROW_SCROLLBAR > (or somesuch) option). Without the -DARROW_SCROLLBAR it behaves like > non-toolkit Emacs (and hence like Xaw scrollbars). With it, it > behaves more like Motif. > > Is there no way for Emacs to control this behavior independent of > how the library was compiled? No. The appearance is different (with extra arrow-buttons at each end) already. You can influence the behavior via Xresources, so you can bring them closer to each other if you really want to, but it would still not be the same anyway. Stefan