From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: please consider emacs-unicode for pervasive changes Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:30:28 +0900 (JST) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200208130030.JAA26246@etlken.m17n.org> References: <200208090754.g797s6s11972@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1029198620 18847 127.0.0.1 (13 Aug 2002 00:30:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 00:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, d.love@dl.ac.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17ePZj-0004ts-00 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 02:30:19 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17ePxz-00044A-00 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 02:55:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17ePaY-0007rK-00; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 20:31:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17ePa0-0007px-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 20:30:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17ePZy-0007pl-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 20:30:36 -0400 Original-Received: from tsukuba.m17n.org ([192.47.44.130]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17ePZy-0007pg-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 20:30:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fs.m17n.org (fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.11.6/3.7W-20010518204228) with ESMTP id g7D0UTl19212; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:30:29 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from etlken.m17n.org (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by fs.m17n.org (8.11.3/3.7W-20010823150639) with ESMTP id g7D0US908284; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:30:28 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from handa@localhost) by etlken.m17n.org (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W-2001040620) id JAA26246; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:30:28 +0900 (JST) Original-To: raeburn@raeburn.org In-Reply-To: (message from Ken Raeburn on Mon, 12 Aug 2002 16:08:58 -0400) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/21.1.30 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6485 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6485 In article , Ken Raeburn writes: > True, but I'm concerned about stepping on toes in "their" development > branch. If the people "in charge of" the unicode branch say yes, they > want all these changes, okay, I can do it. > But they haven't said that. Dave asked for the unicode branch to be > considered for pervasive changes, but said, "I don't know if handa > would like to be consulted beforehand". I haven't seen any email from > handa on this, so I won't take this as a go-ahead yet, either in > general or for the specific changes I've made recently. I sent both > of them email a couple weeks ago showing the string-macro changes as > they would apply to the unicode branch (as it was at that time), > asking if they wanted them applied, but I'm still waiting to hear > back. I'm very sorry for not reacting on this matter more quickly. I've been busy for the other matters. Could you please apply any necessary changes to the unicode branch? As I'm currently working on the HEAD trunk of Emacs, I don't have a time to work on emacs-unicode. So, now is the good timing for applying big changes to the unicode branch. > I'd gotten the impression from email a while ago that it wasn't ready > for daily use, but maybe that's changed. I don't want to be > developing solely on a branch I can't effectively test. The biggest problems for daily use are perhaps gnus and rmail. Dave said that he was working on rmail now. Proper settings of coding-systems and character set priorities for each language environment is also not yet finished. For the other operations, I think emacs-unicode now works fairly well. --- Ken'ichi HANDA handa@etl.go.jp