From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: scroll-bar-toolkit-scroll Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:14:48 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200208121714.g7CHEmd29681@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: <200207290112.g6T1Cvb12938@aztec.santafe.edu> <863cu2kdsh.fsf@gerd.free-bsd.org> <200207300059.g6U0xsw14569@aztec.santafe.edu> <864reh8tqr.fsf@gerd.free-bsd.org> <200207310554.g6V5slG16493@aztec.santafe.edu> <86d6t4glcx.fsf@gerd.free-bsd.org> <200208090712.g797CwY11593@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200208121707.g7CH71n06664@wijiji.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1029172515 8816 127.0.0.1 (12 Aug 2002 17:15:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 17:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, gerd.moellmann@t-online.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17eImg-0002I5-00 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 19:15:14 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17eJAn-0002SO-00 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 19:40:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17eInY-0006yX-00; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:16:08 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17eImn-0006sg-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:15:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17eImH-0006nG-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:15:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu ([128.36.229.169]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17eImG-0006nA-00; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:14:48 -0400 Original-Received: (from monnier@localhost) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g7CHEmd29681; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:14:48 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 Original-To: Richard Stallman Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6471 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6471 > When you build Emacs with LessTif, does grabbing the slider work as it > ought to? Does the buffer redisplay in a new position each time you > move the slider a little up or down? Yes. > What is the user-level intended Emacs scrolling behavior with Xaw3d? > Is it supposed to be compatible with the Emacs non-toolkit scroll bars? More or less. Although it's less configurable from elisp since more of the behavior is implemented in C (more specifically in the toolkit code). It should also be compatible with "the way these scrollbars work in the given toolkit used". So if you use Lesstif (or Xaw3d with arrows), the bindings are not the same as the ones for non-toolkit Emacs (e.g. mouse-3 does not scroll back). > If so, is that the best specification, is that what we should support? I don't think so, because in many cases making the scrollbar work like non-toolkit Emacs (rather than the "native" behavior of the toolkit) is difficult and I'm not sure it would be what users want. Stefan