From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp and Guile Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 11:05:53 -0600 (MDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200208121705.g7CH5rI06514@wijiji.santafe.edu> References: <200207200035.g6K0ZAb27891@aztec.santafe.edu> <200207212015.g6LKF4c00874@aztec.santafe.edu> <200207251807.g6PI75d07615@aztec.santafe.edu> <874renlito.fsf@zagadka.ping.de> <200207271853.g6RIre710837@aztec.santafe.edu> <200207310554.g6V5ssc16508@aztec.santafe.edu> <200208021743.g72HhkX01596@aztec.santafe.edu> <200208110355.g7B3tk306295@wijiji.santafe.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1029172038 7056 127.0.0.1 (12 Aug 2002 17:07:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 17:07:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: marius.vollmer@uni-dortmund.de, neil@ossau.uklinux.net, raeburn@raeburn.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17eIez-0001ph-00 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 19:07:17 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17eJ36-0002DZ-00 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 19:32:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17eIfq-0005GB-00; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:08:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17eIdw-0004pL-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:06:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17eIdo-0004mU-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:06:08 -0400 Original-Received: from pele.santafe.edu ([192.12.12.119]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17eIdn-0004ll-00; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:06:03 -0400 Original-Received: from wijiji.santafe.edu (wijiji [192.12.12.5]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7CH6B524947; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 11:06:11 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: (from rms@localhost) by wijiji.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) id g7CH5rI06514; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 11:05:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: wijiji.santafe.edu: rms set sender to rms@wijiji using -f Original-To: sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de In-Reply-To: (sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6467 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6467 How and why? Things like buffer-local variables are concepts broken in principle in Emacs Lisp. Moving to Scheme is a chance to correct these historic mistakes. We seem to have very basic disagreements. It is not likely I would agree with recommendations that you make on this issue. Check out R5RS. For example, at: http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/r5rs-Z-H-9.html#%_idx_576 I will try to send email to fetch this.