From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: desktop.el problem [Re: X-Symbol 4.0e; Emacs port (fwd)] Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:07:10 -0600 (MDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200207251807.g6PI7A007627@aztec.santafe.edu> References: <67B8CED503F3D511BB9F0008C75DAD660212AE84@dbwdfx17.wdf.sap-ag.de> <200207250247.LAA28221@etlken.m17n.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1027620496 4235 127.0.0.1 (25 Jul 2002 18:08:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:08:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: christoph.wedler@sap.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17Xn26-00016C-00 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:08:14 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17XnHV-0003DB-00 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:24:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17Xn2M-0005oY-00; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:08:30 -0400 Original-Received: from pele.santafe.edu ([192.12.12.119]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17Xn16-0005at-00; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:07:12 -0400 Original-Received: from aztec.santafe.edu (aztec [192.12.12.49]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6PI7IB05800; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:07:18 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: (from rms@localhost) by aztec.santafe.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) id g6PI7A007627; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:07:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: aztec.santafe.edu: rms set sender to rms@aztec using -f Original-To: handa@etl.go.jp In-Reply-To: <200207250247.LAA28221@etlken.m17n.org> (message from Kenichi Handa on Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:47:33 +0900 (JST)) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6039 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6039 Then, it's a general problem of desktop. If a user define a new charset in a session, and there's a string containing that charset in kill-ring, he always fails in the next session while recovering the previous session. Could you explain why this fails? What does the printed representation of such a string look like, and how does it depend on having the character set loaded? Perhaps we should change the printed representation of such strings so that they can be read back in all circumstances. If characters in user-defined character are written as \-sequences, would that do it? It seems that the only way to solve it is to save also those charset definitions. But, saving it in .emacs.desktop is useless. We must save it in a file that is loaded before .emacs.desktop is loaded. Could you explain the reason for that? Are these characters being output literally by prin1, and then encoded when .emacs.desktop is saved? If that is so, there are many points in that sequence that we could change.