From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, mvo@zagadka.ping.de
Subject: Re: emacs and guile (Re: ehelp woes, or why I hate a module that I love so much)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:54:41 -0600 (MDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200207191654.g6JGsfu27015@aztec.santafe.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tx11ya0x14s.fsf@raeburn.org> (message from Ken Raeburn on Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:54:43 -0400)
Actually, the issue is the symbol's value(s). Scheme symbols don't
have separate function and value slots. Emacs Lisp symbols have a few
other fields associated with them, like indirect_variable, that also
don't fit the basic Scheme model. And if we separate the name from
the values, there's the question of what exactly a symbol is.
There are several ways to deal with this.
Some involve changing Guile's symbol representation to have the extra
fields.
If that gives good and clean results, we should use that method, for
efficiency's sake.
IMNSHO this is tantamount to declaring Scheme not to be up to
the task of implementing Lisp, and I'm not prepared to believe that.
Our goal is to support Scheme, but this doesn't mean we have to be
purists about how we do it. We can bring Guile "up to the task" by
adding a facility to add extra slots to a symbol, for
application-specific purposes. Rather than a kludge for Emacs, this
will be a general Guile feature with wider usefulness.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-07-19 16:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-25 14:50 ehelp woes, or why I hate a module that I love so much Juanma Barranquero
2002-06-25 15:06 ` D. Goel
2002-06-25 15:41 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-06-26 22:24 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-27 17:11 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-06-27 19:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-02 15:02 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-02 15:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-02 15:50 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-06-29 8:41 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-02 15:15 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-02 15:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-07-03 11:16 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-03 20:57 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-03 21:32 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-07-04 5:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-07-04 7:58 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-04 10:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-07-04 11:52 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-06 10:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-07-04 11:02 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-07-04 12:08 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-04 12:19 ` Miles Bader
2002-07-04 13:31 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-04 14:02 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-07-04 14:00 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-07-04 15:20 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-17 2:58 ` emacs and guile (Re: ehelp woes, or why I hate a module that I love so much) Ken Raeburn
2002-07-17 7:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-17 9:11 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-07-18 14:54 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-18 21:45 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-18 14:55 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-18 20:13 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-19 13:03 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-07-19 16:24 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-19 16:54 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-19 17:51 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-18 14:56 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-18 19:54 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-19 4:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-19 12:56 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-19 13:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-19 14:16 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-07-19 15:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-19 16:54 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2002-07-19 17:48 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-19 18:25 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-20 0:35 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-20 12:00 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-21 20:14 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-19 16:54 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-04 19:07 ` ehelp woes, or why I hate a module that I love so much Henrik Enberg
2002-07-05 0:49 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-05 11:15 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-07-05 10:48 ` Richard Stallman
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