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* More .cvsignore entries?
@ 2002-07-14 19:54 Kai Großjohann
  2002-07-15  9:49 ` Richard Stallman
  2002-07-15 14:13 ` Stefan Monnier
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 2002-07-14 19:54 UTC (permalink / raw)


When nothing has changed, I get the following in the PCL-CVS buffer:

/----
| In directory .:
| In directory info:
|               Unknown                 info/elisp-covers.texi
|               Unknown                 info/elisp-vol1.texi
|               Unknown                 info/elisp-vol2.texi
| In directory lisp:
|               Modified                lisp/cus-load.el
|               Modified                lisp/finder-inf.el
|               Modified                lisp/loaddefs.el
| In directory man:
|               Unknown                 man/emacs.op
|               Unknown                 man/emacs.ops
\----

I would like to add .cvsignore entries for the "Unknown" files, to
reduce clutter.

Do you mind?

kai
-- 
A large number of young women don't trust men with beards.  (BFBS Radio)

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* Re: More .cvsignore entries?
  2002-07-14 19:54 More .cvsignore entries? Kai Großjohann
@ 2002-07-15  9:49 ` Richard Stallman
  2002-07-15 11:55   ` Robert J. Chassell
  2002-07-15 14:13 ` Stefan Monnier
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2002-07-15  9:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

elisp-*.texi should exist in lispref, but they should not be in info.
elisp-covers.texi exists in lispref, but emacs-vol*.texi are missing.
(I don't have them in info, either.)

Can you check those two files in, in lispref, so they don't get lost?

emacs.op and emacs.ops are files created in formatting the Emacs
manual.  They should not be in CVS at all.

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* Re: More .cvsignore entries?
  2002-07-15  9:49 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2002-07-15 11:55   ` Robert J. Chassell
  2002-07-15 12:14     ` Kai Großjohann
                       ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Robert J. Chassell @ 2002-07-15 11:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: bob

RMS wrote
    
    emacs-vol*.texi are missing.

Those files may have been renamed 

    vol*.texi

some time in the past couple of years to make the name short enough
for some systems.

    emacs/lispref/vol*.texi

exist on my system and they look like what I think we originally
called emacs-vol*.texi.

-- 
    Robert J. Chassell                  bob@rattlesnake.com
    Rattlesnake Enterprises             http://www.rattlesnake.com

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* Re: More .cvsignore entries?
  2002-07-15 11:55   ` Robert J. Chassell
@ 2002-07-15 12:14     ` Kai Großjohann
  2002-07-15 16:21     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2002-07-16 16:27     ` Richard Stallman
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 2002-07-15 12:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

"Robert J. Chassell" <bob@rattlesnake.com> writes:

>     emacs/lispref/vol*.texi
>
> exist on my system and they look like what I think we originally
> called emacs-vol*.texi.

I think this means that somebody should call "cvs remove" on the
files in info/...

kai
-- 
A large number of young women don't trust men with beards.  (BFBS Radio)

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* Re: More .cvsignore entries?
  2002-07-14 19:54 More .cvsignore entries? Kai Großjohann
  2002-07-15  9:49 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2002-07-15 14:13 ` Stefan Monnier
  2002-07-15 19:51   ` Kai Großjohann
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2002-07-15 14:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

> | In directory .:
> | In directory info:
> |               Unknown                 info/elisp-covers.texi
> |               Unknown                 info/elisp-vol1.texi
> |               Unknown                 info/elisp-vol2.texi

Where do they come from ?  Why don't you just delete them ?
If they come back, it's a bug somewhere and we should fix it instead
of hiding the problem by adding them to .cvsignore.
Note that my info/.cvsignore contains just * since all the files
in there are auto-generated (except for the `dir' file, but I also
auto-generate it, even though the result is less good).

> | In directory lisp:
> |               Modified                lisp/cus-load.el
> |               Modified                lisp/finder-inf.el
> |               Modified                lisp/loaddefs.el

These are under CVS so there is no reason to put them in .cvsignore.

> | In directory man:
> |               Unknown                 man/emacs.op
> |               Unknown                 man/emacs.ops

I don't have those here, so maybe it's only generated by some
other version of TeXinfo.  Can you check if that's indeed the case
and if so add *.op and *.ops to the man/.cvsignore file ?


	Stefan

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* Re: More .cvsignore entries?
  2002-07-15 11:55   ` Robert J. Chassell
  2002-07-15 12:14     ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2002-07-15 16:21     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2002-07-16 16:27     ` Richard Stallman
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2002-07-15 16:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel


On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Robert J. Chassell wrote:

> RMS wrote
>     
>     emacs-vol*.texi are missing.
> 
> Those files may have been renamed 
> 
>     vol*.texi
> 
> some time in the past couple of years to make the name short enough
> for some systems.

Yes.

>     emacs/lispref/vol*.texi
> 
> exist on my system and they look like what I think we originally
> called emacs-vol*.texi.

Yes.

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* Re: More .cvsignore entries?
  2002-07-15 14:13 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2002-07-15 19:51   ` Kai Großjohann
  2002-07-15 20:10     ` Stefan Monnier
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 2002-07-15 19:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

"Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu> writes:

>> | In directory .:
>> | In directory info:
>> |               Unknown                 info/elisp-covers.texi
>> |               Unknown                 info/elisp-vol1.texi
>> |               Unknown                 info/elisp-vol2.texi
>
> Where do they come from ?  Why don't you just delete them ?
> If they come back, it's a bug somewhere and we should fix it instead
> of hiding the problem by adding them to .cvsignore.

I tried to delete them, and "cvs update" put them back.  So I think
it's "cvs remove" time...

(Originally, I thought that they were auto-generated.  That's why I
suggested .cvsignore.)

> Note that my info/.cvsignore contains just * since all the files
> in there are auto-generated (except for the `dir' file, but I also
> auto-generate it, even though the result is less good).
>
>> | In directory lisp:
>> |               Modified                lisp/cus-load.el
>> |               Modified                lisp/finder-inf.el
>> |               Modified                lisp/loaddefs.el
>
> These are under CVS so there is no reason to put them in .cvsignore.

Right.  It's because of "make bootstrap", I know.

>> | In directory man:
>> |               Unknown                 man/emacs.op
>> |               Unknown                 man/emacs.ops
>
> I don't have those here, so maybe it's only generated by some
> other version of TeXinfo.  Can you check if that's indeed the case
> and if so add *.op and *.ops to the man/.cvsignore file ?

Done.

kai
-- 
A large number of young women don't trust men with beards.  (BFBS Radio)

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* Re: More .cvsignore entries?
  2002-07-15 19:51   ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2002-07-15 20:10     ` Stefan Monnier
  2002-07-16  4:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
  2002-07-16 14:17       ` Kai Großjohann
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2002-07-15 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: Stefan Monnier, emacs-devel

> >> | In directory .:
> >> | In directory info:
> >> |               Unknown                 info/elisp-covers.texi
> >> |               Unknown                 info/elisp-vol1.texi
> >> |               Unknown                 info/elisp-vol2.texi
> >
> > Where do they come from ?  Why don't you just delete them ?
> > If they come back, it's a bug somewhere and we should fix it instead
> > of hiding the problem by adding them to .cvsignore.
> 
> I tried to delete them, and "cvs update" put them back.  So I think
> it's "cvs remove" time...

How on earth could `cvs update' put them back and at the same time
have `cvs -n update' say that they are "Unknown" ?
I doubt `cvs remove' will help, but feel free to try.
As far as I can see, there is simply no such info/elisp-covers.texi
file in the repository at all.

BTW, I'm mildly annoyed at the use of @copying since my texinfo
burps on it saying it's an unknown command.  I'm using texinfo-4.1
from RedHat-7.3 which is not ancient in my book.
Until now, texinfo-4.0 was enough.  Is @copying really important ?


	Stefan

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* Re: More .cvsignore entries?
  2002-07-15 20:10     ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2002-07-16  4:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
  2002-07-16 12:28         ` Robert J. Chassell
  2002-07-16 14:17       ` Kai Großjohann
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2002-07-16  4:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel


On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Stefan Monnier wrote:

> BTW, I'm mildly annoyed at the use of @copying since my texinfo
> burps on it saying it's an unknown command.  I'm using texinfo-4.1
> from RedHat-7.3 which is not ancient in my book.
> Until now, texinfo-4.0 was enough.

FWIW, I agree: it's not a good idea to require the latest Texinfo so 
close to its release (although the CVS version is supposed to be ``not 
for the faint of heart'').  I'd suggest to wait for at least the next 
release, or for several more months, whichever comes first.

> Is @copying really important ?

I guess it's important for Richard, since he asked for that feature.  
AFAIK, its importance is that it guarantees the copying conditions are 
output in all formats supported by makeinfo, especially HTML (where until 
now there was no copyright notice at all).

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* Re: More .cvsignore entries?
  2002-07-16  4:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2002-07-16 12:28         ` Robert J. Chassell
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Robert J. Chassell @ 2002-07-16 12:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: monnier+gnu/emacs, emacs-devel

   > BTW, I'm mildly annoyed at the use of @copying ...
   > Is @copying really important ?

Yes, it is important.

It turned out that documents in various output types, in particular
HTML, were being published *without* any copyright or permissions
notice.  People forgot to put them in.

This meant that people were forbidden to copy, much less modify, much
GNU documentation except for fair use.

This failure was inadvertent:  the people who wrote documentation --
just about everyone who wrote documentation -- provided copying
notices for the `older' cases, for Texinfo itself, for Info, and for
DVI (and deriviatives such as PDF); but they simply forgot HTML!

The @copying command and its companion, @insertcopying,
enable everyone to insert proper copying text.

Here is a sample template that illustrates the use of @copying and
@insertcopying.  It also illustrates, I hope, a proper *verbatim*
license.

(There is some continued discussion concerning the wording of a
verbatim license; for example, it probably does not matter whether you
include the phrase `without royalty' -- the GNU Web site does not:

    http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#VerbatimCopying

but the license is more clear if you do include the phrase.)

(For modifiable works, please use the GNU Free Documentation License.
It was cleverly crafted to mean the same ordinary people, lawyers, and
judges, and to be acceptable to many hard copy publishers as well as
to people who favor freedom.)

Also, this template includes 6 different shell commands for formatting
the file.  It includes XML and DocBook output.

I put these commands into an @ignore ... @end ignore section near the
beginning of the file.  These commands are very useful.  (Since I
mostly work in an X windowing system, I simply copy them from the
Emacs window in which I am editing the Texinfo file into an xterm and
run them.)

I urge you to edit your Texinfo file in GNU Emacs using Texinfo mode.
The mode simplifies your work.  For example, I use the `C-u C-c C-u
C-a' (texinfo-all-menus-update) command all the time.  I never update
node pointers or write menus myself.

Best wishes

--
    Robert J. Chassell                  bob@rattlesnake.com
    Rattlesnake Enterprises             http://www.rattlesnake.com


Here is the sample template:



\input texinfo.tex                         @c -*-texinfo-*-
@comment %**start of header
@setfilename test.info
@settitle Texinfo Test
@smallbook
@comment %**end of header

@ignore
 ## Summary of shell commands to create various output formats:

    ## Info output
    makeinfo --force --fill-column=70 --no-split --paragraph-indent=0 \
    --verbose test.texi

    ## DVI output
    texi2dvi test.texi

    ## Plain text output
    makeinfo --fill-column=70 --no-split --paragraph-indent=0 \
    --verbose --no-headers --output=test.txt  \
    test.texi

    ## HTML output
    makeinfo --no-split --html test.texi

    ## DocBook output
    makeinfo --docbook --no-split --paragraph-indent=0 \
    --verbose test.texi

    ## XML output
    makeinfo --xml --no-split --paragraph-indent=0 \
    --verbose test.texi

@end ignore

@copying
Copyright @copyright{} 2002 Robert J. Chassell

This is a test document.

@quotation
Permission is granted to make and distribute verbatim copies
of this entire document without royalty provided the
copyright notice and this permission notice are preserved on
all copies.

@c    The remainder of this paragraph applies to and should
@c    appear in the Texinfo source.
@c Permission is granted to process this file through TeX or
@c other converter and publish the results, provided the
@c published document carries a copying permission notice
@c identical to this one except for the removal of this
@c paragraph (this paragraph not being relevant to the
@c published document).

Permission is granted to copy and distribute translations
of this document into another language, except that this
permission notice may be stated in a translation approved
by the Free Software Foundation.
@end quotation
@end copying

@c For smallbook format, use smaller than normal amounts of
@c whitespace between chapters, sections, and paragraphs.
@c Remember to comment this out if you are not using smallbook format!
@tex
\global\chapheadingskip = 15pt plus 4pt minus 2pt
\global\secheadingskip = 12pt plus 3pt minus 2pt
\global\subsecheadingskip = 9pt plus 2pt minus 2pt \global\parskip 2pt plus 1pt
@end tex

@titlepage
@sp 6
@center @titlefont{Test document}
@sp 4
@center by Robert J. Chassell

@page
@vskip 0pt plus 1filll
@insertcopying
@end titlepage

@contents

@ifnottex
@node Top, Chapter One, (dir), (dir)
@top Test Top
@insertcopying
@end ifnottex

@menu
* Chapter One::
* Chapter Two::
@end menu

@node Chapter One, Chapter Two, Top, Top
@comment node, next, prev, up
@chapter Chapter One

Contents of chapter 1.

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

Here is an bulleted list:

@itemize @bullet

@item
First item.

@item
Second item.
@end itemize

@node Chapter Two,  , Chapter One, Top
@chapter Chapter Two

Contents of chapter 2
@cindex bar

The lazy dog opened an eye.

@menu
* Section TwoA::
* Section TwoB::
@end menu

@node Section TwoA, Section TwoB, Chapter Two, Chapter Two
@section SectionTwoA

Contents of Section 2A

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

@smallexample
(+ 2 2)
@end smallexample

@node Section TwoB,  , Section TwoA, Chapter Two
@section Section TwoB

Contents of Section 2B

The lazy dog jumps over the quick brown fox.

@bye

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* Re: More .cvsignore entries?
  2002-07-15 20:10     ` Stefan Monnier
  2002-07-16  4:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2002-07-16 14:17       ` Kai Großjohann
  2002-07-16 15:21         ` Template for GFDL copying Robert J. Chassell
  2002-07-16 16:18         ` More .cvsignore entries? Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 2002-07-16 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

"Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu> writes:

> BTW, I'm mildly annoyed at the use of @copying since my texinfo
> burps on it saying it's an unknown command.  I'm using texinfo-4.1
> from RedHat-7.3 which is not ancient in my book.
> Until now, texinfo-4.0 was enough.  Is @copying really important ?

Does this mean I should change man/tramp.texi?  Sure I can do that.
Since I'm lazy: where could I copy-and-paste the copying stuff?

kai
-- 
A large number of young women don't trust men with beards.  (BFBS Radio)

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* Template for GFDL copying
  2002-07-16 14:17       ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2002-07-16 15:21         ` Robert J. Chassell
  2002-07-16 16:18         ` More .cvsignore entries? Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Robert J. Chassell @ 2002-07-16 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: monnier+gnu/emacs, emacs-devel

   Does this mean I should change man/tramp.texi?  Sure I can do that.
   Since I'm lazy: where could I copy-and-paste the copying stuff?

Here is a template that I hope provides the right material.  I just
realized that I have to change some of my files, too.  For some
reason, I thought I had made the changes, but had not.... :-(

Incidentally, we put the actual license itself inside an @quotation
... @end quotation environment in side of @copying because it looks
better that way.

Please note that you need to include the GNU Free Documentation
License as an appendix to your document.  One is included here.

Also, this requires Texinfo 4.2.

\input texinfo.tex   @c -*-texinfo-*-
@comment %**start of header
@setfilename copying-gfdl.info
@settitle Template for GFDL copying
@smallbook
@comment %**end of header

@c Template for GFDL copying: note that the GFDL in an appendix
@c contains a copying licence that is within @display ... @end display
@c and does not need changing.

@ignore
 ## Summary of shell commands to create various output formats:

    ## Info output
    makeinfo --force --fill-column=70 --no-split --paragraph-indent=0 \
    --verbose copying-gfdl.texi

    ## DVI output
    texi2dvi copying-gfdl.texi

    ## Plain text output
    makeinfo --fill-column=70 --no-split --paragraph-indent=0 \
    --verbose --no-headers --output=copying-gfdl.txt  \
    copying-gfdl.texi

    ## HTML output
    makeinfo --no-split --html copying-gfdl.texi

    ## DocBook output
    makeinfo --docbook --no-split --paragraph-indent=0 \
    --verbose copying-gfdl.texi

    ## XML output
    makeinfo --xml --no-split --paragraph-indent=0 \
    --verbose copying-gfdl.texi

@end ignore

@copying
Copyright @copyright{} 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1997, 2001, 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

@c <<An explanation of the document goes here>>

@c Perhaps include the following:
@ignore
Published by the Free Software Foundation, Inc.@*
59 Temple Place, Suite 330@*
Boston, MA 02111-1307 USA@*

Edition @value{edition-number}, @value{update-date}

@c Printed copies are available for $ZZ each.@*
ISBN 1-882114-YY-Y
@end ignore

@quotation
Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document
under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.1 or
any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; there
being no Invariant Section, with the Front-Cover Texts being ``A GNU
Manual'', and with the Back-Cover Texts as in (a) below.  A copy of
the license is included in the section entitled ``GNU Free
Documentation License''.
@end quotation

@quotation
(a) The FSF's Back-Cover Text is: ``You have freedom to copy and
modify this GNU Manual, like GNU software.  Copies published by the
Free Software Foundation raise funds for GNU development.''
@end quotation
@end copying

@c For smallbook format, use smaller than normal amounts of
@c whitespace between chapters, sections, and paragraphs.
@c Remember to comment this out if you are not using smallbook format!
@tex
\global\chapheadingskip = 15pt plus 4pt minus 2pt
\global\secheadingskip = 12pt plus 3pt minus 2pt
\global\subsecheadingskip = 9pt plus 2pt minus 2pt \global\parskip 2pt plus 1pt
@end tex

@titlepage
@sp 6
@center @titlefont{Template for GFDL copying}
@sp 4
@center by Robert J. Chassell

@page
@vskip 0pt plus 1filll
@insertcopying
@end titlepage

@contents

@ifnottex
@node Top, Chapter One, (dir), (dir)
@top Template for GFDL copying
@insertcopying
@end ifnottex

@menu
* Chapter One::                 
* GNU Free Documentation License::  
@end menu

@node Chapter One, GNU Free Documentation License, Top, Top
@comment node, next, prev, up
@chapter Chapter One

The Texinfo source for this document contains a template for GFDL
copying: note that GFDL in appendix contains a copying licence that is
within @code{@@display} ... @code{@@end display} and does not need
changing.

@node GNU Free Documentation License,  , Chapter One, Top
@appendix GNU Free Documentation License

@cindex FDL, GNU Free Documentation License
@center Version 1.1, March 2000

@display
Copyright @copyright{} 2000 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA  02111-1307, USA

Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies
of this license document, but changing it is not allowed.
@end display

@enumerate 0
@item
PREAMBLE

The purpose of this License is to make a manual, textbook, or other
written document @dfn{free} in the sense of freedom: to assure everyone
the effective freedom to copy and redistribute it, with or without
modifying it, either commercially or noncommercially.  Secondarily,
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credit for their work, while not being considered responsible for
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This License is a kind of ``copyleft'', which means that derivative
works of the document must themselves be free in the same sense.  It
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We have designed this License in order to use it for manuals for free
software, because free software needs free documentation: a free
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software does.  But this License is not limited to software manuals;
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@item
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This License applies to any manual or other work that contains a
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A ``Secondary Section'' is a named appendix or a front-matter section of
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The ``Invariant Sections'' are certain Secondary Sections whose titles
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The ``Cover Texts'' are certain short passages of text that are listed,
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Examples of suitable formats for Transparent copies include plain
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the text near the most prominent appearance of the work's title,
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you may publicly display copies.

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If the required texts for either cover are too voluminous to fit
legibly, you should put the first ones listed (as many as fit
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pages.

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and modification of the Modified Version to whoever possesses a copy
of it.  In addition, you must do these things in the Modified Version:

@enumerate A
@item
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(which should, if there were any, be listed in the History section
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if the original publisher of that version gives permission.

@item
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responsible for authorship of the modifications in the Modified
Version, together with at least five of the principal authors of the
Document (all of its principal authors, if it has less than five).

@item
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Modified Version, as the publisher.

@item
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@item
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adjacent to the other copyright notices.

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giving the public permission to use the Modified Version under the
terms of this License, in the form shown in the Addendum below.

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and required Cover Texts given in the Document's license notice.

@item
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@item
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it an item stating at least the title, year, new authors, and
publisher of the Modified Version as given on the Title Page.  If
there is no section entitled ``History'' in the Document, create one
stating the title, year, authors, and publisher of the Document as
given on its Title Page, then add an item describing the Modified
Version as stated in the previous sentence.

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public access to a Transparent copy of the Document, and likewise
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it was based on.  These may be placed in the ``History'' section.
You may omit a network location for a work that was published at
least four years before the Document itself, or if the original
publisher of the version it refers to gives permission.

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preserve the section's title, and preserve in the section all the
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or the equivalent are not considered part of the section titles.

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@item
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or to conflict in title with any Invariant Section.
@end enumerate

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In the combination, you must combine any sections entitled ``History''
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License, the original English version will prevail.

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@end enumerate


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@ignore

To:  
Subject: sample Texinfo file template 
Reply-to: bob@rattlesnake.com 
--text follows this line-- 

Here is a template for a Texinfo file; do please write your
documentation using Texinfo.  It works very well.

This template uses the new @copying and @insertcopying commands.
These new commands simplify inserting permissions and mean that
copying statements now appear in all the different output formats.
(Previously, just about everyone forgot HTML!)

The one disadvantage of these new commands is that you need the new
Texinfo version 4.2 to run them, but this new version is pretty good,
so you might has well get it.

This sample template also illustrates, I hope, a proper *verbatim*
license.

(Incidentally, there is some continued discussion concerning the
wording of a verbatim license; for example, it probably does not
matter whether you include the phrase `without royalty' -- the 
GNU Web site does not:

    http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#VerbatimCopying

but the license is more clear if you do include the phrase.)

(For modifiable works, please use the GNU Free Documentation License.
It was cleverly crafted to mean the same ordinary people, lawyers, and
judges, and to be acceptable to many hard copy publishers as well as
to people who favor freedom.)

Also, this template includes 6 different shell commands for formatting
the file.  It includes XML and DocBook output.

I put these commands into an @ignore ... @end ignore section near the
beginning of the file.  These commands are very useful.  (Since I
mostly work in an X windowing system, I simply copy them from the
Emacs window in which I am editing the Texinfo file into an xterm and
run them.)

I urge you to edit your Texinfo file in GNU Emacs using Texinfo mode.
The mode simplifies your work.  For example, I use the `C-u C-c C-u
C-a' (texinfo-all-menus-update) command all the time.  I never update
node pointers or write menus myself.

Best wishes

--
    Robert J. Chassell                  bob@rattlesnake.com
    Rattlesnake Enterprises             http://www.rattlesnake.com


Here is the sample template:

@end ignore

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread

* Re: More .cvsignore entries?
  2002-07-16 14:17       ` Kai Großjohann
  2002-07-16 15:21         ` Template for GFDL copying Robert J. Chassell
@ 2002-07-16 16:18         ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2002-07-16 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel


On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE wrote:

> Since I'm lazy: where could I copy-and-paste the copying stuff?

emacs.texi should have what you want, with the caveat about the HTML 
version and copying conditions; see the other message in this thread.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread

* Re: More .cvsignore entries?
  2002-07-15 11:55   ` Robert J. Chassell
  2002-07-15 12:14     ` Kai Großjohann
  2002-07-15 16:21     ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2002-07-16 16:27     ` Richard Stallman
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2002-07-16 16:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel, bob

    Those files may have been renamed 

	vol*.texi

I see.  Yes, I have those too.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread

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2002-07-15  9:49 ` Richard Stallman
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2002-07-15 12:14     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-07-15 16:21     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-07-16 16:27     ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-15 14:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-15 19:51   ` Kai Großjohann
2002-07-15 20:10     ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-16  4:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-07-16 12:28         ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-07-16 14:17       ` Kai Großjohann
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